Rollo Tomasi wrote:C'mon folks, Plutarch is pulling our collective leg. Not long ago he was representing himself as a bishop, dropping names of his GA buddies, etc., etc., etc. He goes, he goes. Don't fall for it, gang.
I don't know. As has already been stated, lots of Mormons are die-hard believers but are simply inactive for one reason or another. I chose to give Plutarch the benefit of the doubt on this one. Let's face it: We all know he's 100% TBM, but how can we know if he actually attends his ward or not?
That is my point.
How can one call themselves a TBM if they do not live it?
One of my favorite posters on FAIR is "why me" who has one and only one argument: the church can't be proven to be not true, so the critics are obviously wrong. He claims not to be active in the church. I've never figured out why someone would go to the trouble of vehemently defending a religion they can't be bothered to participate in.
Dr. Shades wrote:Has he ever claimed to be an actual bishop?
I recall Plutarch stating as much on this bb (or its precurser).
"Moving beyond apologist persuasion, LDS polemicists furiously (and often fraudulently) attack any non-traditional view of Mormonism. They don't mince words -- they mince the truth."
-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
How can one call themselves a TBM if they do not live it?
For Mormons the Church is like a fruit salad. People dissect what they like about it and ignore what they don't. Ultimately, what's important is that they are members of the one true church.
Rollo Tomasi wrote:C'mon folks, Plutarch is pulling our collective leg. Not long ago he was representing himself as a bishop, dropping names of his GA buddies, etc., etc., etc. He goes, he goes. Don't fall for it, gang.
I don't know. As has already been stated, lots of Mormons are die-hard believers but are simply inactive for one reason or another. I chose to give Plutarch the benefit of the doubt on this one. Let's face it: We all know he's 100% TBM, but how can we know if he actually attends his ward or not?
That is my point.
How can one call themselves a TBM if they do not live it?
One of my favorite posters on FAIR is "why me" who has one and only one argument: the church can't be proven to be not true, so the critics are obviously wrong. He claims not to be active in the church. I've never figured out why someone would go to the trouble of vehemently defending a religion they can't be bothered to participate in.
I know a person like that. He's on other boards, I think he posted on this one as well. He's had a mystical experience with the LDS church, but logically does not believe in God. In other words, he's a cultural Mormon. But he's ok with his stance, and gets very vehement towards any believer in God who challenges it. He also likes to equate belief in a higher power as belief in Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy. Very enlightening.
Each one has to find his peace from within. And peace to be real must be unaffected by outside circumstances. -Ghandi
How can one call themselves a TBM if they do not live it?
For Mormons the Church is like a fruit salad. People dissect what they like about it and ignore what they don't. Ultimately, what's important is that they are members of the one true church.
That's funny! Because I have had TBMs accuse mainstream Christians of doing the same thing, when things like the WoW or the need for a prophet are rejected. TBMs superficially read the Bible, not doing any research on why the scriptures say what they do, and then come to us with the contradictions they find, claiming we are falling apart, and need the truth of the Book of Mormon to keep moving.
Hey, it's an epic text, and it testifies of Christ. But from the beginning I didn't believe in Nephites or Lamanites. If you do, so be it. I just don't.
Each one has to find his peace from within. And peace to be real must be unaffected by outside circumstances. -Ghandi
Gazelam wrote: The problem is that you need to do more to enhance the Holy Ghost.
Joseph Smith got Bloody drunk to increase the "holy ghost". The 13 witnesses were four sheets to the wind when they were "witnessed by angels", a.k.a. country moonshine.
And crawling on the planet's face Some insects called the human race Lost in time And lost in space...and meaning
Gazelam wrote: The problem is that you need to do more to enhance the Holy Ghost.
Joseph Smith got Bloody drunk to increase the "holy ghost". The 13 witnesses were four sheets to the wind when they were "witnessed by angels", a.k.a. country moonshine.
ROTFLMAO!!! I have not heard that in years!!
Yes, the members that attended the spiritual orgy at the Kirtland temple were told to fast, then they all drank heavily... no wonder they were seeing things.
Gazelam wrote: The problem is that you need to do more to enhance the Holy Ghost.
Joseph Smith got Bloody drunk to increase the "holy ghost". The 13 witnesses were four sheets to the wind when they were "witnessed by angels", a.k.a. country moonshine.
Do you ever provide proof for you wild ass comments?