Infymus wrote:I want completely out and to be free to do what I want to do.
Then can such freedom even exist, at least for more than one person at a time when they have conflicting goals? What I'm a sadist and I want to torture all the good people for eternity while all the good people wish to have happy, peaceful, torture-free afterlives?
That's General Leo. He could be my friend if he weren't my enemy. eritis sicut dii I support NCMO
Infymus wrote:I want completely out and to be free to do what I want to do.
Then can such freedom even exist, at least for more than one person at a time when they have conflicting goals? What I'm a sadist and I want to torture all the good people for eternity while all the good people wish to have happy, peaceful, torture-free afterlives?
Infymus wrote:I want completely out and to be free to do what I want to do.
Then can such freedom even exist, at least for more than one person at a time when they have conflicting goals? What I'm a sadist and I want to torture all the good people for eternity while all the good people wish to have happy, peaceful, torture-free afterlives?
That's why we have Outer Darkness. A place where God is not and all are free from him. The domain of the few who have successfully rebelled against him to the end are granted the freedoms they demand.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
Infymus wrote:I want completely out and to be free to do what I want to do.
Then can such freedom even exist, at least for more than one person at a time when they have conflicting goals? What I'm a sadist and I want to torture all the good people for eternity while all the good people wish to have happy, peaceful, torture-free afterlives?
That's why we have Outer Darkness. A place where God is not and all are free from him. The domain of the few who have successfully rebelled against him to the end are granted the freedoms they demand.
So where is this outer darkness and how can you prove its existence without relying on unreliable information? Once again, you have freedom to believe and do anything you want...as long as its within mormonisms jackbooted structure. Pathetic.
And crawling on the planet's face Some insects called the human race Lost in time And lost in space...and meaning
Infymus wrote:I want completely out and to be free to do what I want to do.
Then can such freedom even exist, at least for more than one person at a time when they have conflicting goals? What I'm a sadist and I want to torture all the good people for eternity while all the good people wish to have happy, peaceful, torture-free afterlives?
That's why we have Outer Darkness. A place where God is not and all are free from him. The domain of the few who have successfully rebelled against him to the end are granted the freedoms they demand.
Gospel according to Nehor?
Show me the doctrine in Mormonism where this is true because I've never heard of it.
Outer Darkness is a prison to house the devil and his angels, not a place of freedom.
Jason wrote:Now, free will. Where do you currently have it in the way you want it? Free from consequences?
Good questions, Jason!
Seriously, Infymus....Why would you want a system in the afterlife that doesn't even exist here?
Isn't the whole point of your quest to find joy in THIS life, right now?
And, in THIS life, there are certainly consequences for your actions.
What do you find so wrong or distasteful about this concept?
Let me clarify...I'm not specifically talking about Mormon theology here...I'm talking about the concept of being responsible for your actions.
This isn't about actions and responsibilities, this is about how the Mormon God creates prisons to house those who disobey HIM. It seems to be lost on more of you and I'm starting to think it is just a little too complicated to discuss.
How do you know that the Mormon God and his POS isn't really a rogue group who broke off from the REAL group, moved to the Southern Universe and became fundies?
Infymus wrote:I want completely out and to be free to do what I want to do.
Then can such freedom even exist, at least for more than one person at a time when they have conflicting goals? What I'm a sadist and I want to torture all the good people for eternity while all the good people wish to have happy, peaceful, torture-free afterlives?
That's why we have Outer Darkness. A place where God is not and all are free from him. The domain of the few who have successfully rebelled against him to the end are granted the freedoms they demand.
Gospel according to Nehor?
Show me the doctrine in Mormonism where this is true because I've never heard of it.
Outer Darkness is a prison to house the devil and his angels, not a place of freedom.
It holds those who would not accept God's Law but become a law unto themselves. It is freedom to be what you choose to be without God or anything he gave you.
The problem is that God made us. We are designed for heaven. Asking to be happy without God is like asking to not be hungry without eating. In this life almost everyone is susceptible to the Light of Christ and can find some happiness vicariously without identifying the source. Death strips away that illusion. Then you can have as much distance from God as you can stomach or be as close to him as you can stomach.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
Infymus wrote:There is no free agency in Mormonism. Period.
So, according to you, no one is free to think differently than you about this. How ironic. ;-)
But, unlike you with LDS, I will resist the temptation of stereotyping all critics of Mormonism by calling your closed-minded remark a typical anti-Mormon response. LOL