BCSpace, what if your wife became a disbeliever in LDS??

[_bcspace]

I didn't ask just to call attention to PPBoaz's somewhat offensive way of needling Bcspace, but the fact that the question seemed designed to elicit a response from a single individual thus making it off-topic worthy. There are a number of forums here and I only have a vague understanding of what goes where and why. Since the moderators did see this, I assume personalized topics are allowable here.

Thanks for sticking up for me moksha. It is much appreciated. However, I was not offended or antagonized by the question or the PM that B&L sent me daring me to answer. More often than not, I relish the opportunity. For me, it's like closing with the enemy in noble (and mortal) combat. The gospel of Christ is likened to a two-edged sword and it's a sword that was meant to be wielded.

Matthew 10:34

[_Who Knows]

One reason for this is because I believe it more likely that the outcome for WK's wife would have been far better if WK had been honest immediately. She might have reacted by moving closer to the Church in the face of such honesty whereas WK's actual modus operandi sounds more like leading someone slowly and carefully down to hell.

What are you talking about? Where did you get the idea that I wasn't honest with my wife? She's known since day one. She was in on my journey to apostacy. However, I still supported her for the last 2 years. I would go to SM with her, help watch the kids, drop them off at primary, then go home and have lunch waiting for them when they got home 2 hours later.

I even resigned from my calling the first sunday after i figured out i didn't believe any more.

So what are you talking about?

[_Coggins7]

by the way, all these exit tales have a sort of a Paul H. Dunnish quality about them.......

Actually, they have a kind of 1070s Kung Fu movie feel to them. Many of those films were (including at Shaw Brothers, the largest film community in the world outside of Hollywood at the time), were actually written by small committee, which is why so many of them have standardized, formatted plots, plot points, and characters. They were genre films with a set, preformatted range of plots, relationships, and themes. An evil Kung Fu master kills our hero's master during a duel. Our hero, a tiny baby, is left unattended, and later found by an old, rag-tag wandering Kung Fu master to takes him away into the mountains and teaches him his special technique. Our hero grows up and vows revenge. Final fight lasts 15 minutes, and his master and honer is, indeed, avenged. The End.

In like manner, many of the LDS exit stories, and certainly most that I've ever read, are most definitely part of what appears to be a standardized genre; they contain a number of similar, formatted elements and themes, and can be very much alike down even to fine details. All one has to do, if one wants a ready made exist tale, is to slightly modify and personalize one of those already in circulation.

Based on Lydia and Boaz's posting history thus far, I'm pretty satisfied that, whoever these people are (or whoever this person is), there is no possibility of taking anything they claim regarding themselves or their membership in the Church with any degree of seriousness.

If these people are actually adults, they clearly have other problems, emotional and psychological, more in need of attention than their personal animus toward a Church of which they very obviously have little knowledge.

[_Black Moclips]

I was honest with my wife about my doubts and how I feel about things. She expressed that she didn't want me to go to church just for her because I wouldn't be true to myself. I was very grateful that she said that, but at the same time, I didn't want her to go to church and be viewed as one of "those poor ladies", you know, the ones people look at a feel sorrow and pity for because they are alone and have ex or non-member husbands. With four young children, I can't imagine her battling alone the kids alone during sacrament meeting. So I go and help out, try to make the best of it, and pretty much keep quiet and to myself.

What is just funny to me though, is how church is just such a chore but we all try and pretend we like it/love it. I can say with almost certainty that 85% of the ward would much rather be doing something else on Sunday afternoon, even the full blown TBM's. Given the choice (with no negative consequences) almost everyone would rather water ski, have a picnic, go hiking, or do almost anything else then sit for 3 hours and listen to the same stuff week after week, year after year. Its like a suffering or penance that you have to do, and hopefully, you will be blessed somewhere, sometime for all the boredom you experienced. The other 15% are the old people, who have made the church everything in their lives, that they don't know what else to do. No hobbies or extracuricular activities outside the church. Spare time? Scripture reading. Going to the temple. Attending auxiliary leadership meetings. Etc. They actually get excited to attend meetings. That is the sign that you are truly TBM, looking forward to meetings, the longer the better.

So in all the chaos and frustration in getting 4 kids ready and ontime to church, amidst my wife's outbursts, I just have to laugh outloud sometimes and say "Why are we doing this? You know there is a quick solution to all of this". Then I get an evil stare (with a slight smile) and get told to get the kids in the car. Ah well. I love her a ton, so I'll go.

[_moksha]

The gospel of Christ is likened to a two-edged sword and it's a sword that was meant to be wielded.

Always seemed like a huge chocolate muffin with walnuts to me. It was meant to be savored and enjoyed.

[_The Nehor]

However, the lead gangster, Thommy, does appreciate your paltry tithes, and he will do his best to make you feel welcome to keep that money coming in. Just remember your place in that single unwed folk like you and Nehbore are the lost boys of the LDS.

There is a definite upside to it, in that one is not asked to volunteer for many Church postions or even to speak.

Sure if you can find an upside to being viewed as the leper of the ward. You do understand you are looked down on and are often the topic of conversation for not being married.

Oh NO!!!!!

People are talking about me?

What will I do?

There are morons who look down on me in Church just like there are.....here? I better run.

[_Who Knows]

In like manner, many of the LDS conversion stories, and certainly most that I've ever read, are most definitely part of what appears to be a standardized genre; they contain a number of similar, formatted elements and themes, and can be very much alike down even to fine details. All one has to do, if one wants a ready made conversion tale, is to slightly modify and personalize one of those already in circulation.

Based on the TBM's posting history thus far, I'm pretty satisfied that, whoever these people are (or whoever this person is), there is no possibility of taking anything they claim regarding themselves or their membership in the Church with any degree of seriousness.

If these people are actually adults, they clearly have other problems, emotional and psychological, more in need of attention than their personal love for a Church of which they very obviously have little knowledge.

Fixored.

Wow, i only had to change 4 things.

[_GoodK]

The gospel of Christ is likened to a two-edged sword and it's a sword that was meant to be wielded.

Always seemed like a huge chocolate muffin with walnuts to me. It was meant to be savored and enjoyed.

Why ruin a delicious chocolate muffin with walnuts?

[_BishopRic]

In like manner, many of the LDS conversion stories, and certainly most that I've ever read, are most definitely part of what appears to be a standardized genre; they contain a number of similar, formatted elements and themes, and can be very much alike down even to fine details. All one has to do, if one wants a ready made conversion tale, is to slightly modify and personalize one of those already in circulation.

Based on the TBM's posting history thus far, I'm pretty satisfied that, whoever these people are (or whoever this person is), there is no possibility of taking anything they claim regarding themselves or their membership in the Church with any degree of seriousness.

If these people are actually adults, they clearly have other problems, emotional and psychological, more in need of attention than their personal love for a Church of which they very obviously have little knowledge.

Fixored.

Wow, I only had to change 4 things.

Excellent. The "Coggins in the mirror" strikes again.

[_Coggins7]

In like manner, many of the LDS conversion stories, and certainly most that I've ever read, are most definitely part of what appears to be a standardized genre; they contain a number of similar, formatted elements and themes, and can be very much alike down even to fine details. All one has to do, if one wants a ready made conversion tale, is to slightly modify and personalize one of those already in circulation.

Based on the TBM's posting history thus far, I'm pretty satisfied that, whoever these people are (or whoever this person is), there is no possibility of taking anything they claim regarding themselves or their membership in the Church with any degree of seriousness.

If these people are actually adults, they clearly have other problems, emotional and psychological, more in need of attention than their personal love for a Church of which they very obviously have little knowledge.

Fixored.

Wow, I only had to change 4 things.

Your inability to handle the truth is only a symptom Whoknows. The real pathology runs much deeper.

But of course, we knew that.