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_KimberlyAnn
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Jersey Girl wrote:
msnobody wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:ohhhhkay, let's see if a never-Mo is up to the olive tree task. Rock, you want me to explain how olive trees got into the Book of Mormon. Here's my random stab at it.

If I am not mistaken, the grafting of olive trees is mentioned in the Bible and View of the Hebrews.


If I'm not mistaken and I could be, but biblically speaking, isn't the olive tree a picture of Israel?


So far as I'm aware, yes it is.


Yes, it is a picture of Israel, the grafted branches being gentiles. Here are the pertinent verses from the Bible, KJV, to which Smith surely had access:

Romans 11: 11-27

11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.

12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?

13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:

14 If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them.

15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?

16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.

17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert grafted in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;

18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.

19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in.

20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:

21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.

22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.

23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again.

24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?

25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.


It was quite possible for the author of the Book of Mormon to have information on olive trees. The fact that the Book of Mormon mentions olive trees is a non-issue, in my opinion.

KA
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KimberlyAnn wrote:It was quite possible for the author of the Book of Mormon to have information on olive trees. The fact that the Book of Mormon mentions olive trees is a non-issue, in my opinion.

KA


Well, KnuckleHead disappointed us, but you sure stepped up to the plate, KA!
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