Sparing Women the Demands of the Priesthood

[_Brackite]

'Do you think men like having to speak in the name of God while giving a blessing...'

Back in the 19th Century and the early 20th Century, LDS Women did give blessings in the name of God, by the laying on of hands. (#2.)
If LDS Women were allowed to and authorized to give blessings in the name of God, by the laying on of hands back in the 19th Century and the early 20th Century, then how come LDS Women are not allowed to, and women are not authorized to give blessings in the name of God, by the laying on of hands during now these days within the LDS Church???

[_beastie]

I disagree. I think we should try to understand why God does what he does. I think it's dangerous to make the step from that to, "This is why God did it." I think there are commandments I have figured out reasons for. I'm not arrogant enough to think that from my mortal viewpoint that they are the sole reason or even the main reason. There are probably reasons I couldn't comprehend if God tried to explain them.

Ok, so you do think you should try to understand why God does what he does. Since the canard of "protecting motherhood" from the excessive demands of the priesthood has been put to rest, how do you understand why God doesn't want women to perform sacred ordinances in the name of JC?

[_The Nehor]

Ok, so you do think you should try to understand why God does what he does. Since the canard of "protecting motherhood" from the excessive demands of the priesthood has been put to rest, how do you understand why God doesn't want women to perform sacred ordinances in the name of JC?

I didn't put it to rest. It could be a reason. All things being equal it's easier for a male Bishop to leave at 2 am rather then the nursing mother who may need to feed a child in the next hour or so. Still, I suspect if it is a reason that it is a minor reason. It might not enter in at all. Then again, I could be wrong.

The rest of the reason? I can only speculate. Eternal significance I have no knowledge of? Testosterone effects leading to more effective use then estrogen effects? God decided randomly and switches off every other planet? Taken as a whole viewing all of human history God saw more good done by males holding the Priesthood then vice-versa? The Father is male so the symbolism is better with a male? There's a separate more powerful priestesshood being held in reserve for the Millenium because it's too powerful to let mortals have now?

For me, God said so is enough. I don't want to throw out my moral judgment but God gave it so I can make judgments about what I should do and to lead me to perfection. It seems to me rather perverse to have a master of morality give it to me and then to use it to try to take him out.

As I've said, God is at the helm. If tomorrow he were to reverse the Law and give women the Priesthood and take it from me I would obey. I'd wonder a little about his reasons like I did above but I would not fight it.

[_The Nehor]

Back in the 19th Century and the early 20th Century, LDS Women did give blessings in the name of God, by the laying on of hands. (#2.)
If LDS Women were allowed to and authorized to give blessings in the name of God, by the laying on of hands back in the 19th Century and the early 20th Century, then how come LDS Women are not allowed to, and women are not authorized to give blessings in the name of God, by the laying on of hands during now these days within the LDS Church???

Yep, well aware. I have a copy of my g-g grandmothers journal where she talks about how she gave blessings and healed. Why the change? I don't know.

I will say that if I were hiking with an LDS female and fell and was injured badly and she wanted to give me a blessing I'd have no objections.

[_beastie]

For me, God said so is enough. I don't want to throw out my moral judgment but God gave it so I can make judgments about what I should do and to lead me to perfection. It seems to me rather perverse to have a master of morality give it to me and then to use it to try to take him out.

As I've said, God is at the helm. If tomorrow he were to reverse the Law and give women the Priesthood and take it from me I would obey. I'd wonder a little about his reasons like I did above but I would not fight it.

Is this your attitude about the priesthood ban on African Americans as well?

[_The Nehor]

For me, God said so is enough. I don't want to throw out my moral judgment but God gave it so I can make judgments about what I should do and to lead me to perfection. It seems to me rather perverse to have a master of morality give it to me and then to use it to try to take him out.

As I've said, God is at the helm. If tomorrow he were to reverse the Law and give women the Priesthood and take it from me I would obey. I'd wonder a little about his reasons like I did above but I would not fight it.

Is this your attitude about the priesthood ban on African Americans as well?

If God commanded that policy then yes, it is. I'm currently unsure about it but it's not on my list of priorities to find out.

[_beastie]

If God commanded that policy then yes, it is. I'm currently unsure about it but it's not on my list of priorities to find out.

Do you believe that the leaders who instituted that policy believed that God commanded it?

[_The Nehor]

If God commanded that policy then yes, it is. I'm currently unsure about it but it's not on my list of priorities to find out.

Do you believe that the leaders who instituted that policy believed that God commanded it?

No idea for sure. I think Brigham Young thought it was. Lorenzo Snow confessed he wasn't sure. President Mckay(?) had a study done on the origin of the Priesthood ban showing he wasn't sure about it either. Others I can't do more then speculate about, there's just not enough information. I'm not interested enough to make it a serious matter of prayer to find out when there are much more (to me at least) important and pertinent things to discuss with God and much more interesting mysteries to search out.

All in all, not a big deal to me. I imagine if I were living under it I would have greater interest but Official Declaration 2 was given before I was born.

[_beastie]

No idea for sure. I think Brigham Young thought it was. Lorenzo Snow confessed he wasn't sure. President Mckay(?) had a study done on the origin of the Priesthood ban showing he wasn't sure about it either. Others I can't do more then speculate about, there's just not enough information. I'm not interested enough to make it a serious matter of prayer to find out when there are much more (to me at least) important and pertinent things to discuss with God and much more interesting mysteries to search out.

All in all, not a big deal to me. I imagine if I were living under it I would have greater interest but Official Declaration 2 was given before I was born.

Ok, let's go with Brigham Young.

Why would Brigham Young believe that God commanded the ban, if, in reality, God had issued no such command?

[_The Nehor]

Ok, let's go with Brigham Young.

Why would Brigham Young believe that God commanded the ban, if, in reality, God had issued no such command?

My guess would be (and we're getting very far into speculation) is that he thought that Joseph got it from God which he may have. He may not have. If he did though it seems he did not write about it or it's likely President Snow would have known about it.