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[_Yoda]

lz wrote: "rather than running directly to our host".

I have never done this. Once again you get your panties in a twist feeding your own paranoia girl.

Fine, Joseph. I admit, I'm not exactly sure of the details. If you didn't go directly to our host, then you informed the photographer directly, and the photographer took it directly to the host.

The point is...the initial incident which our host became aware of happened because you were involved with getting those wheels moving in some way.

[_Joseph]

now start checking your other 'facts' lizzie.

I will not be held to any 'agreement' like you state unless it is made part of a sign on for every poster on these forums.

You and many others can't differentiate between what could happen and what has happened. Is ADD your problem here?

[_Simon Belmont]

now start checking your other 'facts' lizzie.

I will not be held to any 'agreement' like you state unless it is made part of a sign on for every poster on these forums.

You and many others can't differentiate between what could happen and what has happened. Is ADD your problem here?

Oh, even the agreement you chose to make with Shades?

It takes a real man to be a man of his word.

Sadly, you fall very short of that.

[_Yoda]

now start checking your other 'facts' lizzie.

I will not be held to any 'agreement' like you state unless it is made part of a sign on for every poster on these forums.

You and many others can't differentiate between what could happen and what has happened. Is ADD your problem here?

You are the only one who voluntarily made this agreement with Shades. Either you are willing to keep that agreement, or you're not.

If you are willing to keep the agreement that you made with Shades....the agreement that you will come to Shades FIRST with any violations that you see....then there is no issue.

YOU are the one who keeps moving the goal posts here, Joseph. Not me, or anyone else.

I will spell this out for you ONE MORE TIME.....since you don't seem to understand what I am saying.

If you have a problem with how one of the moderators is treating you....or you have a disagreement with another poster.....you CANNOT use your agreement with Shades as "leverage" to get what you want.

What you have been doing is...every time someone has disagreed with you, you have made an off-handed comment like, "Well, I guess I'll just not tell Shades when I see a violation...blah blah blah...."

All I am asking is that you NOT do that anymore. How hard is that, Joseph? How hard is it to simply ask you to stick to an agreement that you voluntarily entered into?

That is ALL I am asking here.

You cannot threaten to go back on the agreement you made just because things aren't going your way. You have to act like a grown-up.

THAT's what we're talking about here, Joseph.

What part of what I wrote don't you understand? I don't know how much simpler I can make this.

I have also agreed to completely keep my hands off of anything you post. One of the other Moderators will handle any issue that you have.

I don't know how much fairer this can be.

Do we have a deal?

[_Quasimodo]

I've deliberately avoided making any comment about this whole affair out of professional courtesy (along with being an illustrator, I've been a professional photographer since I was in college).

I have thousands of illustrations and photographs posted all over the internet. I was paid well by my clients and I don't worry even a little about my images showing up in discussion boards. I've posted my own images on boards many times.

A few here, but mostly on clinical boards and illustration software web sites such as Corel and Illustrator.

I have scientific and medical images that are used on a regular basis by news organizations (AP, UPI, Reuters ) that I happily receive residual checks from in the mail.

If my images were being used in a book that was being sold without paying me in some way, I would be unhappy. If my images are being used in some format that was not for profit, I wouldn't care.

Joseph's crusade seems to be more about having an effect on the world and a feeling self importance than a protection of legal photographic rights. Like an adolescent who writes graffiti on a wall in the middle of the night.

I think banning Joseph would not have an effect. Ignoring Joseph would rob him of the thing that he wants most... attention.

[_ludwigm]

I have one good acquaintance, used many times to solve this type of problems.

His name is Sparafucile. (by the way he has an attractive sister, Maddalena)

see AND LISTEN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DQ1JTot_ew
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk-lLgqMTWQ

or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6MX_YaPIlM (Madison Square Garden on May 25, 1944)

[_Yoda]

Joseph--

Since you're posting again...I thought I would bump this.

What is your answer to this?

Are you willing to abide by the agreement that you made with Shades? Yes or No?

And, if you are willing to abide by the agreement that you made with Shades, are you going to QUIT using that agreement as a bargaining chip every time someone disagrees with you?

now start checking your other 'facts' lizzie.

I will not be held to any 'agreement' like you state unless it is made part of a sign on for every poster on these forums.

You and many others can't differentiate between what could happen and what has happened. Is ADD your problem here?

You are the only one who voluntarily made this agreement with Shades. Either you are willing to keep that agreement, or you're not.

If you are willing to keep the agreement that you made with Shades....the agreement that you will come to Shades FIRST with any violations that you see....then there is no issue.

YOU are the one who keeps moving the goal posts here, Joseph. Not me, or anyone else.

I will spell this out for you ONE MORE TIME.....since you don't seem to understand what I am saying.

If you have a problem with how one of the moderators is treating you....or you have a disagreement with another poster.....you CANNOT use your agreement with Shades as "leverage" to get what you want.

What you have been doing is...every time someone has disagreed with you, you have made an off-handed comment like, "Well, I guess I'll just not tell Shades when I see a violation...blah blah blah...."

All I am asking is that you NOT do that anymore. How hard is that, Joseph? How hard is it to simply ask you to stick to an agreement that you voluntarily entered into?

That is ALL I am asking here.

You cannot threaten to go back on the agreement you made just because things aren't going your way. You have to act like a grown-up.

THAT's what we're talking about here, Joseph.

What part of what I wrote don't you understand? I don't know how much simpler I can make this.

I have also agreed to completely keep my hands off of anything you post. One of the other Moderators will handle any issue that you have.

I don't know how much fairer this can be.

Do we have a deal?

[_Joseph]

(Moderator Note)Personal attack deleted.you are the sound of one mouth flapping...

[_Yoda]

(Moderator Note)Personal attack deleted., you are the sound of one mouth flapping...

So does that mean that you are not going to answer the question?

Shades, I will say, here and now, that if Joseph refuses to answer the question that you, I, and the majority of the board has asked, that you really don't have a choice but to ban him.

Joseph...the question on the table...

Will you honor your agreement with Shades, even when people on the board disagree with you?

[_Simon Belmont]

(Moderator Note)Personal attack deleted., you are the sound of one mouth flapping...

So does that mean that you are not going to answer the question?

Shades, I will say, here and now, that if Joseph refuses to answer the question that you, I, and the majority of the board has asked, that you really don't have a choice but to ban him.

Joseph...the question on the table...

Will you honor your agreement with Shades, even when people on the board disagree with you?

Shades has been curiously silent on this issue.