Themis wrote:His professional image? Is that as an apologist or as a professor in Islamic studies. If the ladder I fail to see how.
he's explained how a few times, as i recall. But I won't press this.
I am sure people like Dawkins get way more crap said about him, but I doubt he spends much time worrying about it.
I'mnot sure I see the comparison exactly. But for fun, who is Dawkins' Scratch?
He would do well to follow their example, but then as I said, I think he like the attention. He posting career that I have seen for many years seem to suggest this, while many other apologists do not.
He's trying it. He's attempted to do as you recommend, Themis.
Love ya tons, Stem
I ain't nuttin'. don't get all worked up on account of me.
Themis wrote:Richard Dawkins. He has a doctorate but can be viewed in some ways as apologist for atheism.
I know who Dawkins is, I'm asking who is Dawkins' Scratch?
I am sure he has many more then DCP.
yep, he's a bad man for deciding to come back. But we'll see how it goes.
No he is not a bad guy for coming back, but thanks for making biased and very incorrect assumptions again. I was saying that he was not able to stay away before, so he may not be able to keep quiet. I think he likes the attention, and will eventually miss it. Now I don't mind that he came back, but I was disappointed he spent his time on trivial things, and avoiding real substance.
You mean "more than". but it'd be interesting to see if he does have any at all. I mean he may have plenty of more critics. I buy that since I'm aware he has plenty, but are they Scratch level? I don't know. Do you?
No he is not a bad guy for coming back, but thanks for making biased and very incorrect assumptions again. I was saying that he was not able to stay away before, so he may not be able to keep quiet. I think he likes the attention, and will eventually miss it. Now I don't mind that he came back, but I was disappointed he spent his time on trivial things, and avoiding real substance.
I think he felt his time here was best spent refuting the accusations and smear campagning. The what you call substance was not useful for him to respond here because of the environment, the general atmosphere, it seems.
Harmony said it kind of well in another thread explaining how it seems like no matter his response here, he got gang-piled on, and often for the most innocuous statements. I get that people can be critical of others, but like Harmony, i think the critics of him here went over-board. He seemed to recognize that and tried to limit his participation some.
Love ya tons, Stem
I ain't nuttin'. don't get all worked up on account of me.
stemelbow wrote: I think he felt his time here was best spent refuting the accusations and smear campagning. The what you call substance was not useful for him to respond here because of the environment, the general atmosphere, it seems.
No, he avioded substance because he would not be able to answer the hard questions. I see this all the time. Now it's not his fault any more then it is the fault of any apologist. When the evidence is against you, you can't hope to do well in defending something not true.
Harmony said it kind of well in another thread explaining how it seems like no matter his response here, he got gang-piled on, and often for the most innocuous statements. I get that people can be critical of others, but like Harmony, i think the critics of him here went over-board. He seemed to recognize that and tried to limit his participation some.
Dan always got involved, and helper create some of his own problems. Other apologists have done much better and avioded the crap, by not getting involved in the crap and sticking to the issues. Don Bradley is a good example.
stemelbow wrote: I think he felt his time here was best spent refuting the accusations and smear campagning. The what you call substance was not useful for him to respond here because of the environment, the general atmosphere, it seems.
What a copout. Other Mormon scholars manage to discuss substantive topics here. I wonder why that is?
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
Themis wrote:Dan always got involved, and helper create some of his own problems. Other apologists have done much better and avioded the crap, by not getting involved in the crap and sticking to the issues. Don Bradley is a good example.
Well, good. I'm glad you like Don more. I don't even know what we're talking about anymore.
Love ya tons, Stem
I ain't nuttin'. don't get all worked up on account of me.
Buffalo wrote:What a copout. Other Mormon scholars manage to discuss substantive topics here. I wonder why that is?
I don't know what one has to do with the other, but its good to note that you assume copout. it'd be easy to do afterall.
Unless DCP has some sort of disability that prevents him from discussing substantive issues, there's no reason why he can't do what other faithful Mormon scholars have done here.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.