just me wrote: The church asks far more than abstinence. They ask you to basically be asexual, yet you are somehow supposed to find a mate and get married.
This is not true at all. One can be attracted to someone and not arouse sexual feelings. What sexual feelings should be aroused when feeling attracted to someone. What woman would like some jerk imagining himself jumping her bones?
What the church is asking its youth is not to arouse sexual feelings since they can lead to problems. First problem: doing it. Already STD's among the youth are extremely high. Why...because too many are acting out their sexual arousals.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
just me wrote: The church asks far more than abstinence. They ask you to basically be asexual, yet you are somehow supposed to find a mate and get married.
This is not true at all. One can be attracted to someone and not arouse sexual feelings. What sexual feelings should be aroused when feeling attracted to someone. What woman would like some jerk imagining himself jumping her bones?
What the church is asking its youth is not to arouse sexual feelings since they can lead to problems. First problem: doing it. Already STD's among the youth are extremely high. Why...because too many are acting out their sexual arousals.
Please cite the STD's that one can give to their self through self stimulation.
I find thousands of people attractive. I would not want to marry someone I was not SEXUALLY attracted to and aroused by.
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
There is not enough information here to know what he is talking about. There are people who would rather masturbate than have sex with a willing and wanting spouse. Obviously, that causes problems in marriage. Maybe not quite on par with cheating but it might still be grounds for divorce.
On the otherhand most women need to masturbate in conjuction with sexual intercourse. Should a husband be bothered by that? Of course not!
Zelder wrote: You didn't read the article did you? Did you know the Pres Kimball admitted that the majority of divorces were casued by sexual problems a.k.a. sexual disfunction! Ironically, the church has been a major cause of sexual disfunction. .
I would say the the magazine Cosmopolitan is more to blame for sexual disfunction. In almost all glossy magazines, the topic of sex is flashing off its cover. It is amazing just how the human race survived as a species without the advice the magazines give.
Here is what I think: when one abstains from sex and suddenly one is with the partner that one loves and gets married, the sex should be great. Two horny people going at it hot and heavy. And in most cases I am sure that this is how it is.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
Zelder wrote: On the otherhand most women need to masturbate in conjuction with sexual intercourse. Should a husband be bothered by that? Of course not!
No, they shouldn't. But here is the problem that I gave on a different thread: When a husband or wife masturbates alone without the partner, they are usually having a sexual fantasy. Now is the sexual fantasy about the spouse or someone else? If it is someone else, Phil may call that cheating.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
why me wrote:What woman would like some jerk imagining himself jumping her bones?
You are speaking from a culture of sexually supressed women who are not supposed to like sex. In a happy heathly trusting relationship nearly all women are thinking about jumping the bones of their male love interest. You have a twisted view of female sexuality.
Zelder wrote: You didn't read the article did you? Did you know the Pres Kimball admitted that the majority of divorces were casued by sexual problems a.k.a. sexual disfunction! Ironically, the church has been a major cause of sexual disfunction. .
I would say the the magazine Cosmopolitan is more to blame for sexual disfunction. In almost all glossy magazines, the topic of sex is flashing off its cover. It is amazing just how the human race survived as a species without the advice the magazines give.
Here is what I think: when one abstains from sex and suddenly one is with the partner that one loves and gets married, the sex should be great. Two horny people going at it hot and heavy. And in most cases I am sure that this is how it is.
zeezrom wrote: There are married people who struggle with intimacy in their own marriage because they took that council very seriously for years upon years of their life.
People struggle with intimacy for many reasons. It may have to do with their attitude toward their own bodies. This may be true for women. Or it may be from porn. Porn can kill intimacy since porn usually has no intimacy at all. This may be true for men.
Or it can come from reading too many articles about sex from glossing magazines. But is the church responsible for a lack of intimacy? No, I don't think so.
Why? Because when a man and a woman date and sex is not involved, they can concentrate on communication when on a date. They may talk about many things that can create intimacy when married. Communication with someone a person loves creates the best intimacy and future stimulation.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
The clitoris is where it's at and it's not located inside the vagina. If we start guilt tripping women for not having vaginal orgasims then we can expect a lot of sexual dysfunction. Let women have an orgasm for God's SAKE!
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith