Think racism isn't taught to Mormon kids? Think again.

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_Bob Loblaw
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Re: Think racism isn't taught to Mormon kids? Think again.

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Droopy wrote:No. According to LDS doctrine, the key is lineage, not race. Nations, kindreds, tongues, and peoples are mentioned throughout the Book of Mormon on a regular basis, but never the term "race," a concept which it is highly doubtful would have made any sense to the vast majority of peoples (if any) in ancient times, and hence, does not appear in the Book of Mormon.

Skin color, in this case, was a symbolic marker, or outward sign of a kind of culture, and when Nephite dissenters began partaking of Lamanite culture, they took on the dress, body adornment, and other attributes of the Lamanites. Their skin color did not change, at this point, but they marked themselves in their foreheads, and altered their appearance in solidarity with their new found "counterculture."


But that's not racist. God, you're an idiot.

Your statements are so clogged with contemporary ideological baggage that serious philosophical argument with you here is probably impossible. For people such as you, there's an "ism" and an "ist" for everything, isn't there? All the better to tar and feather those who disagree with you as beyond the pall of decent humanity, and save yourself the trouble of intellectually engaging their actual arguments, or seriously critiquing your own.


Better an ism than a conspiracy theory. You haven't engaged in anything here but obfuscatory bluster. You are incapable of substantive discussion, so you bloviate about nothing and hope no one notices the emptiness behind your overinflated prose.

If insulting a woman is evidence of misogyny, and if dark skinned people are sinless, then it would appear that the world is made up of two classes of people: those who share in the general weakness, corruption, and fallenness of human nature, and those who do not.


Yes, indeed you are an idiot. Insulting all women as a group is misogyny, or didn't they teach you that word at Nathan Bedford Forrest Community College?

Those who do not (the noble savage (eco, inner city, indigenous Third World etc.) are the mascots of the Anointed. Those who do (white males, white male Christians, Americans, Europeans (unless French), females (if and only if conservative, Christian/Mormon, middle class etc.), black conservatives, successful entrepreneurs etc.) are the collective enemies of those pure children of promise who do not.


Project much, Cooter?

This is the preeminent manner in which philosophically serious discussion and debate of opposing viewpoints is circumvented for mutual moral preening, and why this particular forum is so toxic.


In summation: in place of an actual argument, you present a string of stereotypes connected by poor writing. Moral preening is a hell of a lot better than your pompous idiocy. Philosophically serious--please, you're killing me. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Think racism isn't taught to Mormon kids? Think again.

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moksha wrote:I once read a story in which a wolf had sharp teeth, which were "all the better to eat you up with". I never developed an active anti-lupine bias because of this.

So what if racism is embedded in the story? I think it takes more than a story to distill an active sense of hatred toward a racial group. It would take things like racism being part of a family's overall values or perhaps later in life joining the Eagles Forum.


Racism does not have to be about hate. It can also be about loving everyone, even those dark skinned people that you might think are not as good as you. That is still racism, even if you love them.

Brigham Young taught a very important lesson about love.

"It is a great blessing to the seed of Adam to have the seed of Cain for servants, but those they serve should use them with all the heart and feeling, as they would use their own children, and their compassion should reach over them, and round about them, and treat them as kindly, and with that humane feeling necessary to be shown to mortal beings of the human species. Under these circumstances there blessings in life are greater in proportion than those who have to provide the bread and dinner for them."
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Re: Think racism isn't taught to Mormon kids? Think again.

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The racist notion that black skin is connected with dirtiness and laziness has been around for a long time and certainly existed in Joseph Smith's time.
But BCSpace would have us believe that the existence of those ideas on the same page in the Book of Mormon is just a coincidence. God didn't even notice that he was playing into stereotypes.

I suppose God might have accidentally done worse. We are lucky the text doesn't read as follows:


Laman and Lemuel’s followers called themselves Lamanites.
They became a dark-skinned people with wide noses, and thickened lips and sex machine bodies.
God cursed them because of their wickedness.
The Lamanites became lazy, would not work and went on welfare. They spent their days eating watermelon and mugging Nephites.


I am sure BCSpace would still see no racism.
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Re: Think racism isn't taught to Mormon kids? Think again.

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tapirrider wrote:
Droopy wrote:
So now, according to our resident Cultural Marxist in waiting, simply pointing out variations in human morphology is "racist."

Its fascinating - but not unprecedented historically - just how far the intellectual deterioration among the Left has progressed.


Droopy, please clarify. Is tapirrider the "resident Cultural Marxist"? Or were you referring to Blixa?


Lol. He means me. I'm a cultural Mormon, but by no means a cultural Marxist. At least the FBI thinks I'm the real thing, if not Droopy.

Of course, Droopy has no clue what those terms, among many, mean. He thinks in chunks and his text blurts are activated by hearing what to him are buzzwords.
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Re: Think racism isn't taught to Mormon kids? Think again.

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schreech wrote:
Darth J wrote:What's a Cultural Marxist? Does it mean that the government should redistribute culture according to one's needs?


I think he really meant "resident Culture Club Marxist"...he thinks Blixa (or possibly tapirrider) wants the government to redistribute Culture Club albums according to one's needs...


Not a bad idea. I heard this duet live and it brought me to tears. Rufus Wainwright was standing next to me and gave me a wonderful hug...
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Re: Think racism isn't taught to Mormon kids? Think again.

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Blixa wrote:
Lol. He means me. I'm a cultural Mormon, but by no means a cultural Marxist. At least the FBI thinks I'm the real thing, if not Droopy.

Of course, Droopy has no clue what those terms, among many, mean. He thinks in chunks and his text blurts are activated by hearing what to him are buzzwords.


Thank you for clarifying it. I'm sorry that you were derisively labeled.
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Re: Think racism isn't taught to Mormon kids? Think again.

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Blixa wrote:I'm a cultural Mormon, but by no means a cultural Marxist. At least the FBI thinks I'm the real thing, if not Droopy.

Hmm. I sense there's an interesting story there.

Please share how you came to the attention of the FBI.
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Re: Think racism isn't taught to Mormon kids? Think again.

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Joseph Smith was a liar and a false Egyptian translator!! The Mormon church is racist for calling a god of Egypt a slave and naming him with a made-up name that isn't even Egyptian.

Olimlah, a slave belonging to the prince.
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To hell with the Mormon church and Joseph Smith the liar. I would simply like to add that I am glad that they killed him at Carthage! Hell yeah! Joseph Smith was a dirty rat -- he was a bastard. Mormonism is filth. The Book of Mormon is a lie. President Monson is a fat hog with lips of lies. Packer is a nazi -- no better than a murderer.

I would gladly spit in Packer's face.

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Re: Think racism isn't taught to Mormon kids? Think again.

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Shulem wrote:Joseph Smith was a liar and a false Egyptian translator!! The Mormon church is racist for calling a god of Egypt a slave and naming him with a made-up name that isn't even Egyptian.

Olimlah, a slave belonging to the prince.
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To hell with the Mormon church and Joseph Smith the liar. I would simply like to add that I am glad that they killed him at Carthage! Hell yeah! Joseph Smith was a dirty rat -- he was a bastard. Mormonism is filth. The Book of Mormon is a lie. President Monson is a fat hog with lips of lies. Packer is a nazi -- no better than a murderer.

I would gladly spit in Packer's face.

Paul O

So you are not a fan of Mormonism then?
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Re: Think racism isn't taught to Mormon kids? Think again.

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Tarski wrote:
So you are not a fan of Mormonism then?


:lol: I think Paul may close to losing his testimony.
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