D. Michael Quinn working on new book about LDS Inc business!

[_EAllusion]

The LDS Church's chartiable contributions seem more comparable to Coca Cola or Wal*Mart's chartiable wing than, uh, organizations that are charitable as their primary mission. But in the case of corporate responsibility, that's more a marketing strategy than a reflection of any altruistic desire.

http://www.thecoca-colacompany.com/sust ... iving.html

Anyway, if the City Creek Mall is a wonderful act of charity meant to combat inner city blight and its attendant problems, shouldn't it have been built in Detroit or something?

[_Darth J]

The LDS Church's chartiable contributions seem more comparable to Coca Cola or Wal*Mart's chartiable wing than, uh, organizations that are charitable as their primary mission. But in the case of corporate responsibility, that's more a marketing strategy than a reflection of any altruistic desire.

http://www.thecoca-colacompany.com/sust ... iving.html

Anyway, if the City Creek Mall is a wonderful act of charity meant to combat inner city blight and its attendant problems, shouldn't it have been built in Detroit or something?

Many large corporations also have job placement centers. So they must be charitable organizations, just like the Church with its job placement centers.

[_Lucretia MacEvil]

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Now of course, Quinn has an axe to grind but he is disgruntled.

The Ad Hominem Hymn

I love this video!!!!!!!

[_Lucretia MacEvil]

The LDS church believes in putting people to work. Free handouts are not the answer. A soup kitchens takes care for one meal a day. But give that person a job, give that person an income, no need for a soup kitchen. And the LDS church has a great adoption program in its LDS social services.

Cool. So if only all the homeless in the country would head to SLC to become gainfully employed in the new Mall!

Oh, but I've heard that in SLC they put their homeless on buses to Las Vegas. How's this supposed to work again?

[_Drifting]

The LDS church believes in putting people to work. Free handouts are not the answer. A soup kitchens takes care for one meal a day. But give that person a job, give that person an income, no need for a soup kitchen. And the LDS church has a great adoption program in its LDS social services.

Cool. So if only all the homeless in the country would head to Salt Lake City to become gainfully employed in the new Mall!

Oh, but I've heard that in Salt Lake City they put their homeless on buses to Las Vegas. How's this supposed to work again?

I guess if whine me is sticking to his 'providing employment' rationale for the expenditure of $5 billion dollars worth of widows mite then one must assume that Salt Lake City was one of the most deprived cities in the world in terms of employment prospects. Is it?

[_Fence Sitter]

The more I read this thread the more Quinn's book sounds like a must read.

[_DarkHelmet]

We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…”
Joseph Smith, “Times and Seasons,” March 15, 1842

http://Mormon.org/humanitarian-aid/

Now quote a scripture where it says we are to filche away charitable donations to build a loss making shopping emporium complete with retractable glass roof.

It is all part of the prosperity theology that it seems the LDS church is starting to move towards.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosperity_theology

[_Kishkumen]

My largest concerns about this project are:

1. Accessibility or lack thereof to crucial evidence.

2. Quinn's training or lack thereof in business and law.

[_Tim the Enchanter]

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The Ad Hominem Hymn

I love this video!!!!!!!

She has another one, based on Called To Serve, that is equally lovable.

[_harmony]

If you live in Salt Lake City.
This may surprise you, but there is more population outside Salt Lake City than resides within it....

If you were a young person in Africa with no food for you, your wife or your children, would you still feel the same?

This is the crux of this issue: the Brethren live in SLC, therefore, they are most concerned about SLC. Their vision does not expand to think globally. They are quite focused in their vision, and SLC is the apex of that focus. We've seen this for decades, starting the building of the Conference Center... a gift to SLC residents. The Mall is simply the latest project that uses Church funds to focus on SLC.

If the Brethren actually bought into the idea of a global church, as opposed to a SLC church, we would not see projects focused on SLC. We'd see hospitals in West Virginia, we'd see clinics in southern Texas, we'd see food kitchens on New Mexico reservations. We see none of these things, because not only is the LDS church not a global church, not a global player, we aren't even a player in the war on USA poverty. We are exactly what we look like: upper middle class elitists focused solely on our own gratification.

Yea, us. No doubt God would be proud.