BYU grad general resigns over "swinging"

[_NorthboundZax]

Thanks for the link. I can definitely see how blaming the spouse for infidelity would be classified as a form of abuse. I'm not sure I agree yet that infidelity by itself is abusive, but I'll consider it a bit more.

[_Jersey Girl]

Thanks for the link. I can definitely see how blaming the spouse for infidelity would be classified as a form of abuse. I'm not sure I agree yet that infidelity by itself is abusive, but I'll consider it a bit more.

So if you're lying to someone you made a promise to, taking time away from your family to indulge yourself, and setting your spouse up for STD's without their knowing it, that's not abusive?

Why? No one gets hurt?

[_ldsfaqs]

Rino ~ The one who "cast the first stone" in this thread was ldsfaqs. My OP in the thread said nothing to him or about him. I generally ignore his posts because I think he's mentally ill and I feel sorry for him, and I honestly don't know where the mental illness ends and the "this is who he is" bad behavior begins. However, if he's going to call me names and get in my face, I am going to respond.

That you're using a tiny bit of bad behavior on my part from 8 years ago that I expressed regret for 7 years ago to suggest that I shouldn't respond to someone who misbehaves flagrantly and frequently---even when he singles me out unprovoked---leaves me wondering whether you're a troll or just someone who is really lacking in perspective.

That you think a single mom completing an MA degree and a professional certificate while raising two kids with special needs is somehow an indicator of need for counseling means you are definitely either a troll or someone who is really lacking in perspective.

Excuse me....

1. I did not "cast the first stone".... You posted a mocking image, laughing at people for their difficulties.
Thus YOU cast the stone, while I simply chastised you for your low-class mockery.

2. LOL.... It's so fascinating how much you people lie about others.... It's also fascinating how a person is called mentally ill simply because they are a conservative, a Mormon, and simply condemn and point out the evils and lying of anti-mormonism and liberalism, not to mention the constant personal attacks which I further prove as lies and evil in the soul.

3. I never "name called"..... This is what I actually said, contrary to your lying.

Your wonderful intellect is on full display.....

by the way, have you all noticed I have NEVER posted this sort of "mocking" of people?
Yet, you all do it all the time. It shows clearly your level of character and intellect.

I was critical of your behavior.... If you don't like it, then repent.

[_NorthboundZax]

Thanks for the link. I can definitely see how blaming the spouse for infidelity would be classified as a form of abuse. I'm not sure I agree yet that infidelity by itself is abusive, but I'll consider it a bit more.

So if you're lying to someone you made a promise to, taking time away from your family to indulge yourself, and setting your spouse up for STD's without their knowing it, that's not abusive?

Why? No one gets hurt?

Badgering me that it is bad, doesn't convince me it is abusive. Not all bad behaviors are forms of abuse. To be clear, I'm not excusing the behavior. It is certainly an abuse of trust. But is lying and dishonesty really abuse? Is squandering family time to indulge oneself abuse? They are bad, but they doesn't really fit abuse by any definition I have.

Whether or not we call it abusive isn't something I even care deeply about - this seems to be devolving to a semantics question. If you want to consider infidelity intrinsically abusive, that is fine with me. I just had a hard time seeing it, and MsJack is more than capable of providing compelling viewpoints that I hadn't considered before.