Morgan Davis and the "Plot" to Destroy FARMS
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The criticism of the JSP has to be seen as being pretty much a direct assault on the Brethren's directives. I mean, seriously: here is one of the most important historical endeavors that the Church has ever undertaken, and here's "Interpreter," flinging potshots at it? Talk about insubordination! I'd still be interested to hear what WMLdeWette knows, but I bet this has really thrown the whole Mopologetic enterprise into a state of turmoil.
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I came back to skim the parts of this thread I missed the first time.
And what I have to say is that I'm really angry and hurt that I've had to go through so much hell over all of this. I'm angry at the posters on this board who have been such merciless assholes. I"m angry at John for doing everything he had within his power to harm me. And I'm angry that people get after me about hurting him when he was the person who held the sledge hammer and swung and swung and swung. Dodging a sledge hammer and learning how to stand up for oneself and something one had built that was good and beautiful is far different than the things I get accused of doing here.
I'm angry that people are so afraid of him and that most everyone who had power to help me as he swung his sledge hammer was too afraid to do so.
In 2012, I gave everything I had within me and was one significant catalyst in a major shift within Mormonism. I had my incentives and reasons for taking the specific actions I took. I knew where I was going and why and I was able to make things really happen. The things that I started and that John didn't allow me to complete were good things and I believe the direction I was leading would have been far better than what ultimately ended up transpiring.
I shouldn't have been put through so much hell for doing good and I have never deserved to be treated the way the posters on this board have treated me. (And no doubt some person severely lacking in information will now chime in to insult me in some way.)
I'm a bit emotional right now because things are going to change in the near future. My life seems to relentlessly push me forward towards reaching the same objectives I was striving for in 2012 when I was running Mormon Stories. I never could have predicted the many twists and turns I'd have to endure between then and now in order to be more prepared to continue the work that was so important to me then. But that's what happened. Here I am... 2020 and with so much more experience under my belt that I can now use to get done what I believe needs to be done.
So, that's that I suppose.
There aren't many of you here I'd have a desire to meet in the real world, but I hope y'all can get the answers to 2012 that you're looking for.
And what I have to say is that I'm really angry and hurt that I've had to go through so much hell over all of this. I'm angry at the posters on this board who have been such merciless assholes. I"m angry at John for doing everything he had within his power to harm me. And I'm angry that people get after me about hurting him when he was the person who held the sledge hammer and swung and swung and swung. Dodging a sledge hammer and learning how to stand up for oneself and something one had built that was good and beautiful is far different than the things I get accused of doing here.
I'm angry that people are so afraid of him and that most everyone who had power to help me as he swung his sledge hammer was too afraid to do so.
In 2012, I gave everything I had within me and was one significant catalyst in a major shift within Mormonism. I had my incentives and reasons for taking the specific actions I took. I knew where I was going and why and I was able to make things really happen. The things that I started and that John didn't allow me to complete were good things and I believe the direction I was leading would have been far better than what ultimately ended up transpiring.
I shouldn't have been put through so much hell for doing good and I have never deserved to be treated the way the posters on this board have treated me. (And no doubt some person severely lacking in information will now chime in to insult me in some way.)
I'm a bit emotional right now because things are going to change in the near future. My life seems to relentlessly push me forward towards reaching the same objectives I was striving for in 2012 when I was running Mormon Stories. I never could have predicted the many twists and turns I'd have to endure between then and now in order to be more prepared to continue the work that was so important to me then. But that's what happened. Here I am... 2020 and with so much more experience under my belt that I can now use to get done what I believe needs to be done.
So, that's that I suppose.
There aren't many of you here I'd have a desire to meet in the real world, but I hope y'all can get the answers to 2012 that you're looking for.
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Rosebud wrote:I came back to skim the parts of this thread I missed the first time.
And what I have to say is that I'm really angry and hurt that I've had to go through so much hell over all of this. I'm angry at the posters on this board who have been such merciless assholes. I"m angry at John for doing everything he had within his power to harm me. And I'm angry that people get after me about hurting him when he was the person who held the sledge hammer and swung and swung and swung. Dodging a sledge hammer and learning how to stand up for oneself and something one had built that was good and beautiful is far different than the things I get accused of doing here.
I'm angry that people are so afraid of him and that most everyone who had power to help me as he swung his sledge hammer was too afraid to do so.
In 2012, I gave everything I had within me and was one significant catalyst in a major shift within Mormonism. I had my incentives and reasons for taking the specific actions I took. I knew where I was going and why and I was able to make things really happen. The things that I started and that John didn't allow me to complete were good things and I believe the direction I was leading would have been far better than what ultimately ended up transpiring.
I shouldn't have been put through so much hell for doing good and I have never deserved to be treated the way the posters on this board have treated me. (And no doubt some person severely lacking in information will now chime in to insult me in some way.)
I'm a bit emotional right now because things are going to change in the near future. My life seems to relentlessly push me forward towards reaching the same objectives I was striving for in 2012 when I was running Mormon Stories. I never could have predicted the many twists and turns I'd have to endure between then and now in order to be more prepared to continue the work that was so important to me then. But that's what happened. Here I am... 2020 and with so much more experience under my belt that I can now use to get done what I believe needs to be done.
So, that's that I suppose.
There aren't many of you here I'd have a desire to meet in the real world, but I hope y'all can get the answers to 2012 that you're looking for.
So what is that needs to be done? What should we expect to see from you in the next eight years?
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Let it happen, Res. The future will tell the story.
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By our own Mary (with maybe some input from me when I can help). Thank you Mary!
Thread about the lawsuit
Thread about Mary's chronological document
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Re: Morgan Davis and the "Plot" to Destroy FARMS
Doctor Scratch wrote:The criticism of the JSP has to be seen as being pretty much a direct assault on the Brethren's directives. I mean, seriously: here is one of the most important historical endeavors that the Church has ever undertaken, and here's "Interpreter," flinging potshots at it? Talk about insubordination! I'd still be interested to hear what WMLdeWette knows, but I bet this has really thrown the whole Mopologetic enterprise into a state of turmoil.
This is a much more minor issue, but that must also be why he has started hinting that negatively commenting on Midgley’s posts is the equivalent of making fun of the mentally ill. I can’t see how he can leave many of Midgley’s comments up on his blog without having some kind of rationale.
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This is a much more minor issue, but that must also be why he has started hinting that negatively commenting on Midgley’s posts is the equivalent of making fun of the mentally ill. I can’t see how he can leave many of Midgley’s comments up on his blog without having some kind of rationale.
The rationale is that they see themselves as warriors continuing the war in heaven. There is no love in Mormonism. There is guilt, obedience, haste, desire, fear, pressure, and you can't ever quite measure up or do enough. As warriors they see no reason to ever attempt to actually love others. It isn't part of the war that they feel and have been told they HAVE to win. Priesthood is POWER, not loving mercy, grace, and tenderness along with real giving of charity and heart. There is a battle line and they are on the front of it. They fear they will not be valiant enough in their testimony, and that testimony is them having dealt the death blow to Evangelical Christianity as Lou was bragging about. They BRAG that they beat others down and defeat them. It's a war mentality of which they are victims of a merciless scheme to ensure they remain within the religion. They are TOLD they are happy. They are TOLD when they are righteous. They are TOLD when they are good, and they are TOLD when they are doing right things. They can believe whatever they want to, but they CANNOT say whatever they want about evidence to or publish along any other lines than is congruent with their church leaders "knowledge." They are literally owned, and guilted into their happiness. It eats the soul, and we see that daily. They literally do not fathom how to have a Christ like love. It is all dictated to them how they are to act, dress, think, speak, and write. They are victims of war, and it so obviously shows.
They brag that they hate Mr Rogers! How can one actually HATE that man?!? That was the cue for me. They have no empathy or acceptance of people as they are, they MUST change them or they are guilted for decades into thinking the blood and sins of this generation will be on THEIR heads! I mean, that can't help but truly ruin your spirit and soul through time. That kind of pressure guilt is so horrible. And they are taught and apparently actually believe that it is the Spirit guiding them. Mormonism is Guiltcraft. It has perfected it on its own people. They even defend them having $100,000,000,000 and only giving a pittance of a mere annual $40,000,000 to charities. The church makes more than that in interest! But to their people, they are the shining light of truth and love. But only because they are threatened with non-Celestial glory if they doubt. Here is just one example I found without even TRYING!!!
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Exiled: "Here is the thing, Dr. Midgley, the old guard wasn't reinstated or invited back after 2012. If the brethren are so enamored with the way you don't allow "slam dunks" supposedly, why aren't you back at the MI?
Proprietor: "You know far, far less about this than you think you do, Self-Exiled. Here's a hint: Don't believe everything you read about the matter on the Malevolent Stalker Board."
Wait, hold the phones. Is he saying we are mistaken and the Old Guard HAS been put back into power at the MI?
Proprietor: "You know far, far less about this than you think you do, Self-Exiled. Here's a hint: Don't believe everything you read about the matter on the Malevolent Stalker Board."
Wait, hold the phones. Is he saying we are mistaken and the Old Guard HAS been put back into power at the MI?
Lou Midgley 08/20/2020: "...meat wad," and "cockroach" are pithy descriptions of human beings used by gemli? They were not fashioned by Professor Peterson.
LM 11/23/2018: one can explain away the soul of human beings...as...a Meat Unit, to use Professor Peterson's clever derogatory description of gemli's ideology.
LM 11/23/2018: one can explain away the soul of human beings...as...a Meat Unit, to use Professor Peterson's clever derogatory description of gemli's ideology.
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WMLdeWette wrote:He made it clear that he was incapable of doing so, so some of his longtime friends and admirers stepped in to stop him from self-destructing and, more importantly, doing further damage to the Institute and the University.
I suppose we all need to be grateful that Dr. Midgley was not sent on an assignment to interview the friends, family, neighbors, and employers of the Colvins down in New Zealand. Could you imagine the poop hitting the fan if there was an international stalking/harassment incident with a Maxwell agent as the transgressor? What you could get away with in Utah, as in the case of Grant Palmer, would not be unprosecutable elsewhere.
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WMLdeWette wrote:While I don't think that the LDS Church's leadership views Interpreter negatively ...
It would be wonderful if the Church tent was big enough for both the sweeties and meanies, as well as the Truly Over Zealous and Cafeteria Mormons You Know Whats.
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Gadianton wrote:Exiled: "Here is the thing, Dr. Midgley, the old guard wasn't reinstated or invited back after 2012. If the brethren are so enamored with the way you don't allow "slam dunks" supposedly, why aren't you back at the MI?
Proprietor: "You know far, far less about this than you think you do, Self-Exiled. Here's a hint: Don't believe everything you read about the matter on the Malevolent Stalker Board."
Wait, hold the phones. Is he saying we are mistaken and the Old Guard HAS been put back into power at the MI?
Maybe Dr. P is doing some consulting on how to throw some elbows? Karl Malone v. Isaiah Thomas is a great example of how not to allow a slam dunk. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P0RGcMhGMk4
Maybe a big contribution was made by the fund to the witnesses movie? Is this what he is referring to? Or don't underestimate an appeal to secret evidence that really isn't anything.
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