Abortion Split from: "What the [LDS] church misrepresented in the AP article response"

[MG 2.0]

Interesting thought, isn’t it? And this applies to the millions of babies aborted by their mothers for reasons other than protecting the life of the mother or in cases of rape.

“Pile of cells”. How flippant.



https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn ... -pregnancy

A “friendly” source.

As I’ve already said but it bears repeating, it’s almost incomprehensible that folks do not seem to understand the heinous nature of both child exploitation/rape/incest, and the like, AND aborting innocent children before they ever have a chance to take their first breath.

Each one of us should be grateful for mothers that chose life rather than abortion. Many are not so lucky. We should be angered and appalled.

Regards,
MG

It’s not a child, mg. You continue to object because you assume a fetus, a conglomeration of devoting cells inside a woman, is an old individual child. No one is obligated to accept your assumptions.

And you continue to sidestep the questions put to you on this topic for some reason. God is responsible for more abortions than anyone.

I am not obligated to think that when fetuses are spontaneously aborted and/or stillborn that God is doing something evil. Nature takes its course. I believe God has made allowances for that. What I can say is that you are sidestepping…and you’re not alone…in looking at elective abortions as being a non issue.

A beating heart. A neural tube. That at one time was YOU.

We will probably never come to an agreement on this topic along with others. I really don’t have much more to say than what I’ve already said.

The callous disregard for life on such a large scale I find reprehensible. I am glad that I don’t stand alone and that there are others that stand for life. Not so much here apparently.

I’m fairly confident that secular humanism/agnosticism/atheism has a connection with this.

Regards,
MG

[Rivendale]

The callous disregard for life on such a large scale I find reprehensible. I am glad that I don’t stand alone and that there are others that stand for life. Not so much here apparently.

I’m fairly confident that secular humanism/agnosticism/atheism has a connection with this.

Regards,
MG

You mean like genocide and a world wide flood? I don't think you can get much more callous than killing almost all of humanity along with most land breathing organisms.

[MG 2.0]

You mean like genocide and a world wide flood? I don't think you can get much more callous than killing almost all of humanity along with most land breathing organisms.

You have me saying something I didn’t say. Check out your quotation feature.

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

Nope! By all means …

Thanks to both of you.

I second this.

Regards,
MG

[Rivendale]

It’s not a child, mg. You continue to object because you assume a fetus, a conglomeration of devoting cells inside a woman, is an old individual child. No one is obligated to accept your assumptions.

And you continue to sidestep the questions put to you on this topic for some reason. God is responsible for more abortions than anyone.

I am not obligated to think that when fetuses are spontaneously aborted and/or stillborn that God is doing something evil. Nature takes its course. I believe God has made allowances for that. What I can say is that you are sidestepping…and you’re not alone…in looking at elective abortions as being a non issue.

A beating heart. A neural tube. That at one time was YOU.

We will probably never come to an agreement on this topic along with others. I really don’t have much more to say than what I’ve already said.

The callous disregard for life on such a large scale I find reprehensible. I am glad that I don’t stand alone and that there are others that stand for life. Not so much here apparently.


I’m fairly confident that secular humanism/agnosticism/atheism has a connection with this.

Regards,
MG

[dastardly stem]

It’s not a child, mg. You continue to object because you assume a fetus, a conglomeration of devoting cells inside a woman, is an old individual child. No one is obligated to accept your assumptions.

And you continue to sidestep the questions put to you on this topic for some reason. God is responsible for more abortions than anyone.

I am not obligated to think that when fetuses are spontaneously aborted and/or stillborn that God is doing something evil. Nature takes its course. I believe God has made allowances for that. What I can say is that you are sidestepping…and you’re not alone…in looking at elective abortions as being a non issue.

If god exists then all abortions are elective, mg. He’s known they will happen before they do, he knows what can prevent them, he has power to prevent them. He chooses not to prevent them and elects to watch the fetus’ viability end. He alone would be responsible for all abortions that happen without human decision. And as I’ve pointed out many abortions as decided upon by humans are inspired by god. God confirms the decisions when they pray and seek his guidance. He alone is responsible for most abortions.

A beating heart. A neural tube. That at one time was YOU.

Not really. It was me once I was born. That’s the way I see it. Nothing about a fetus’ time in the womb makes an individual as I see it.

We will probably never come to an agreement on this topic along with others. I really don’t have much more to say than what I’ve already said.

The callous disregard for life on such a large scale I find reprehensible. I am glad that I don’t stand alone and that there are others that stand for life. Not so much here apparently.

I’m fairly confident that secular humanism/agnosticism/atheism has a connection with this.

Regards,
MG

No one is obligated to assume as you do that fetus are individuals with spirits put in them by god. But if you are truly upset by abortions why do you honor god? As is clear most abortions that have happened were on his hands—only he could have prevented them. You said if you had the power to stop one you would, right? If god hates abortions so bad why has he sat and watched them without caring and why does he not show up and tell us? Why doesn’t he at the very least tell your church leaders they are wholly unacceptable?

[Rivendale]

I am not obligated to think that when fetuses are spontaneously aborted and/or stillborn that God is doing something evil. Nature takes its course. I believe God has made allowances for that. What I can say is that you are sidestepping…and you’re not alone…in looking at elective abortions as being a non issue.

If god exists then all abortions are elective, mg. He’s known they will happen before they do, he knows what can prevent them, he has power to prevent them. He chooses not to prevent them and elects to watch the fetus’ viability end. He alone would be responsible for all abortions that happen without human decision. And as I’ve pointed out many abortions as decided upon by humans are inspired by god. God confirms the decisions when they pray and seek his guidance. He alone is responsible for most abortions.

A beating heart. A neural tube. That at one time was YOU.

Not really. It was me once I was born. That’s the way I see it. Nothing about a fetus’ time in the womb makes an individual as I see it.

We will probably never come to an agreement on this topic along with others. I really don’t have much more to say than what I’ve already said.

The callous disregard for life on such a large scale I find reprehensible. I am glad that I don’t stand alone and that there are others that stand for life. Not so much here apparently.

I’m fairly confident that secular humanism/agnosticism/atheism has a connection with this.

Regards,
MG

No one is obligated to assume as you do that fetus are individuals with spirits put in them by god. But if you are truly upset by abortions why do you honor god? As is clear most abortions that have happened were on his hands—only he could have prevented them. You said if you had the power to stop one you would, right? If god hates abortions so bad why has he sat and watched them without caring and why does he not show up and tell us? Why doesn’t he at the very least tell your church leaders they are wholly unacceptable?

I love the quote by Tracy Harris." The difference between me and your God is I would stop child rape if I could. Instead he watches and punishes later". Jesus had a reboot attempt with Joseph , aledgedly where he could have cleared up abortion slavery, microorganisms in water but polygamy took the spotlight. Horrific.

[MG 2.0]

I love the quote by Tracy Harris." The difference between me and your God is I would stop child rape if I could. Instead he watches and punishes later". Jesus had a reboot attempt with Joseph , aledgedly where he could have cleared up abortion slavery, microorganisms in water but polygamy took the spotlight. Horrific.

Agency and nature’s God.Two things that some folks would disrupt. The question is what would be the consequences?

I’m thinking that only God knows. And he knows better than to disrupt nature and agency.

Then when sh** happens folks get all worked up.

One can take the position that polygamy was a command of God and that abortion, slavery, and microorganisms in water fall under the category of nature and agency.

And that generally speaking God will not interfere.

You see, there are many folks that think God isn’t smart enough to have a plan…and failsafes…to see that his purposes/goals for mankind are met. Those same folks often think they could do better.

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

If god exists then all abortions are elective, mg. He’s known they will happen before they do, he knows what can prevent them, he has power to prevent them. He chooses not to prevent them and elects to watch the fetus’ viability end.

I disagree with your premise for reasons mentioned in my previous post.

Abortions involve free agents making choices. Those choices lead to easy access to elective abortions with no strings attached. It’s so easy.

But wrong.

Human life, even for some atheists/agnostics is a miracle worth preserving. To these folks, along with religious observers, the indiscriminate taking of human life while in the womb is an abomination.

There might even be one or two among the many here that feel this way but are hesitant to express their feelings.

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

As is clear most abortions that have happened were on his hands—only he could have prevented them.

No. They are literally in the hands of the abortion providers and those that seek abortions for almost any reason they want to.

The numbers are staggering.

People have made these choices. Don’t put anything on God except for creating a natural world filled with free agents who make choices to do whatever they want.

There will be accountability, I believe.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/aborti ... roe-v-wade

And then you have the last ten years…

Again, I find it interesting to see where the virtue signaling goes here…

Not to say, again, that there are not other horrendous crimes against children that take place. I agree.

But abortion has been a scourge for many years. A lot of folks are just used to it and condone it as ‘part of life’ to bring death to unborn innocents.

Regards,
MG