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Re: They Will Always Hate You. Always

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huckelberry wrote:
Thu Oct 02, 2025 8:36 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Thu Oct 02, 2025 8:30 pm
LDS doctrine differs fundamentally in views concerning the nature of God and the mission/teachings of Jesus Christ. Important similarities and important differences.

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MG
Gee MG you are fully capable of explaining yourself at length. Here? Is the subject not worth your time?

Hoping to encourage you. After all, there are less important matters taking up space.
MG, your link lists commonly observed differences but makes little observation about the value of the differences. I will suggest a possible view:

I think LDS thinking leaves it very unclear how Jesus is divine. If he is first brother he may be selected to be a representative, bring a message, but not be divine. I think this weakens faith in the atonement.

Another angle on this question is how the Holy Ghost is God if being divine is result of process of living in body. The HG can reach inside each one of us because he is spirit. This sure sounds like God the father or Jesus cannot. They sound remote. Perhaps the HG is the one true God and the father and Jesus are delegated representatives.

MG, I think the Richard Bushman thread opens with a statement highlighting LDS new contributing doctrine more clearly than the EV link you linked. Bushman has done some clear thinking preserving Joseph Smith's teaching. It is striking in a way. My mind finds it disturbing. I could wonder who or what were these intelligences who discovered how to be God. Where did the order principals making this possible come from? The idea of eternal intelligences floating about in chaos is disturbing, like some nightmare. How can intelligence exist in chaos?

Perhaps these puzzles are a result of trying to avoid an eternal god.

MG, I would be inclined to think the best LDS contribution is the community of people. Perhaps some of the peculiar ideas help hold the group together. Perhaps believing the group matters helps hold it together.
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Gadianton wrote:
Tue Sep 30, 2025 12:42 pm
worse than that, it contradicts President Trump's statement yesterday that the attack on the Mormon church in Michigan was yet another targeted attack on Christians. Hound is saying Trump is wrong. It also allows Mormons to be the target of anti-Christian bias at the DOJ, as his executive order does not include Mormons.
Oops! Hound needs to be reeducated in how to MAGA correctly.
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MG 2.0 wrote:
Sat Oct 04, 2025 12:29 am
This may be a good place to start:

https://www.namb.net/apologetics/resour ... istianity/

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MG
I would say that, no, this is not a good place to start.

Why?

First, because the theological position of the author is not clear. Second, because the chart contains a number of errors regarding both Christianity and Mormonism.

There must be better resources out there, MG.
"He disturbs the laws of his country, he forces himself upon women, and he puts men to death without trial.” ~Otanes on the monarch, Herodotus Histories 3.80.
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