Re: Epic Mormonism Live on Rosebud Accusations
Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 12:12 pm
Wait, didn't one of the guests on the Mormonism Live podcast say the Open Stories Foundation had no intention of hiring back Rosebud?
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Wait, didn't one of the guests on the Mormonism Live podcast say the Open Stories Foundation had no intention of hiring back Rosebud?
Now I will put on my Mormon legalistic God hat. In the interview John says "I am faithful to my wife". He doesn't say or imply that he has always been faithful. Bob isn't asking him about Rosebud and John is completely denying it. This isn't even on the same level of Joseph Smith's "what a thing it is to be accused of having seven wives when I can only see one". So if John Dehlin is faithful to his wife Jan 27, 2020 then he isn't lying, I don't even think he is being dishonest. Otherwise if we are going to have this standard then JP I hope if you are asked if you poo your pants that you merely answer "yes" since you undoubtedly did so as a baby. JP are you Monica Adams on the ML YouTube comments? Really strange you would use the same wording and details as Monica. Why did you choose a female name? Do you identify as female?jpatterson wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 5:16 amJohn: Any accusations of sexual harassment are completely baseless (proven lie...at BEST any objective observer would conclude John skirted the line)
John: I'm faithful to my wife! (proven lie)
Peanut gallery: Look, it's not like we worship John, it's just that no amount of historical evidence will ever convince us that John Dehlin is a liar and a fraud.
Faint praise, indeed. I'm sure Dehlin's wife is comforted.Now I will put on my Mormon legalistic God hat. In the interview John says "I am faithful to my wife". He doesn't say or imply that he has always been faithful....
Man, that is really slanderous. A statement from the site:drumdude wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 12:57 pmby the way the "John Dehlin is an alleged pedophile" website is still up.
https://rejohndehlinmormonstoriesosfetc ... bler-team/
Anyone have any idea who the "we" might be? Someone or some people in CA?Ultimately, absolutely, and unequivocally, the contents of this WP Site are solely the author’s opinions and allegations which are secondary to PA West’s experiences in real life/face to face with John Dehlin (she alleging he is a sexual predator/harasser/groomer-children too), et al. in addition to research, public records (alleging business/financial improprieties; unearthed secondary to information/input from individuals who publically posted on Facebook in May 2017 (Including but not limited to: John Dehlin, Kate Kelly, Esq., Dr. Kristy Money, Ph.D., Joanna J. Smith).
Our research since May 2017, back to at least 2010 to present day, the actions of John Dehlin, Ryan Millencam, Natasha Helfer-Parker, MFT, Dan Wotherspoon, Ph.D. (the cousin of Rosebud), Craig Woodfield, CPA, Christine J. Clark, Lee Stowell, Roger McOmber, Amy Shoemaker Grubbs, Gina Colvin, Nadine McComb Hansen, Attorney, Kim Sandberg Turner, Steve Holbrook, and several others (have led author(s) to pursue subsequent research, review of public records regarding the alleged financial improprieties and sexual harassment allegations against Open Stories Foundation/Dehlin/Mormon Stories et al (including ENBALERS) that now span, we contend, almost 10 years, a decade. We contend what we have discovered so far is not all inclusive, just scratching the surface.
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I like it. I also like Kishkumen's "levi lovin.' "Aristotle Smith wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 3:06 pmCan I nominate "naked sexual interaction" as the most Mormon description ever?
/r/exmormon was started in 2009, John Dehlin joined a forum that I belonged to that had a bunch of progressive Mormons in 2006. Every generation thinks they are the first to invent oral sex.22:25 [March 2011] This was kind of an original idea [to create groups for exmos]
That forum John Dehlin joined in 2006 had TBMs, exmos, nevermos, gay Mormons, etc. all discussing religion, politics, arts, entertainment, etc.31:30 Rosebud helped setup the conferences to empower people and here are believers and unbelievers and gays together and is a "huge success". Rosebud implies that this is in part due to the shared values that she developed.
She focuses a lot on John being unable to deliver on ideas and she had focus and purpose and had to prevent John from sabotaging the work she was trying to do. She again focuses on the success of a conference she put together. She is invested in this work and successful. His sabotage is cause he isn't sure if something will be financially viable.38:33 John has a lot of ideas . . . his ideas are all over the place and he doesn't have enough focus.