Possible Modern Source for the Book of Mormon

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Re: Possible Modern Source for the Book of Mormon

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Runtu wrote:
Nevo wrote:It's nice to see that all of the old Spalding-Rigdon-Cowdery-Pratt conspiracy theorists haven't lost the faith. Gilbert Hunt contributed to the Book of Mormon too? Why, the more the merrier! And what would a thread on Book of Mormon origins be if didn't mention Sidney Rigdon's unclaimed mail and the venerable Mrs. Eichbaum.


Is there any particular reason for this sneering?
I thought it was a humorous comment. I think you may be overreacting by a tad-bit .
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Re: Possible Modern Source for the Book of Mormon

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I've got to say that between barges sealed with pitch that discuss windows, and a cataclysmic earthquake producing darkness...... I am seeing some really strong thematic correlation. Add that to the stippling warriors and the curious workmanship, and the 1/2 dozen other hits.......

There are orders of magnitude more correlation in hits for this, than anything produced in defense of the Book of Abraham.
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Re: Possible Modern Source for the Book of Mormon

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I think we are all missing an important question about Hunt's book.

Could any man, by himself, have written this book? :wink:
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Re: Possible Modern Source for the Book of Mormon

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RockSlider wrote:I emailed the link to the book to my chapel Mormon wife ... with no other comment ... Of course she figures its from my anti-mormon site/friends, but I'm hoping she might read a bit of it and give me some feed back.


That was the right way to do it. Just send a friendly link and ask "what do you think of this"? Ask if it reminds them of the Book of Mormon and if their curiosity is peeked they might take a look and read it. That might be enough to weaken their testimony and look for more or even push them over the cliff.

It's all about killing testimonies but you have to be subtle in doing it. This is all part of the antiMissionary effort.

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Re: Possible Modern Source for the Book of Mormon

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canadaduane wrote:I don't think this parallel has been found here, but my brother, Chris, mentioned this one in his presentation:

TLWB 28:12 “they cut down the tall trees of the forest, and hewed them, and built many more strong vessels… and they put windows in them, and they pitched them within and without with pitch; after the fashion of the ark

Ether 2:17 “And they were built... tight like unto a dish; and the length thereof was the length of a tree;”
Ether 2:23 “your vessels ... cannot have windows
Ether 6:7 “their vessels being tight like unto a dish, and also they were tight like unto the ark of Noah”

I think it sheds interesting light on the anachronism of the Lord mentioning windows that can be dashed to pieces.


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Re: Possible Modern Source for the Book of Mormon

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I think there are other things that resemble the language of Book of Mormon much better than Hunt's book. That would be the Book of Abraham, the D&C, and Joseph's language in the JST. So in my opinion this text is running a distant 4th place in texts with similar language to the Book of Mormon.


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Re: Possible Modern Source for the Book of Mormon

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Phaedrus Ut wrote:I think there are other things that resemble the language of Book of Mormon much better than Hunt's book. That would be the Book of Abraham, the D&C, and Joseph's language in the JST. So in my opinion this text is running a distant 4th place in texts with similar language to the Book of Mormon.


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Re: Possible Modern Source for the Book of Mormon

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Nevo wrote:It's nice to see that all of the old Spalding-Rigdon-Cowdery-Pratt conspiracy theorists haven't lost the faith. Gilbert Hunt contributed to the Book of Mormon too? Why, the more the merrier! And what would a thread on Book of Mormon origins be if didn't mention Sidney Rigdon's unclaimed mail and the venerable Mrs. Eichbaum.


As crazy as the Spalding theory is, it's far more believable than the official church version of events. Books like the Late War simply demonstrate how ordinary the Book of Mormon was for it's time. Maybe there was a conspiracy, maybe it was miraculous, but the simplest and most likely answer is it's nothing special, somebody wrote it, and it required no conspiracy or divine intervention to produce.
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Re: Possible Modern Source for the Book of Mormon

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Fence Sitter wrote:I think we are all missing an important question about Hunt's book.

Could any man, by himself, have written this book? :wink:


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