Shulem Cracked the Book of Mormon Code, the Land of Nephi is now revealed! See for yourself! The Golden Key!

[Shulem]

Susquehanna River




QUESTION: From what point did Captain Kidd gain entry into the Susquehanna River?

ANSWER:

And it came to pass that Hagoth, he being an exceedingly curious man, therefore he went forth and built him an exceedingly large ship, on the borders of the land Bountiful, by the land Desolation, and launched it forth into the west sea, by the narrow neck which led into the land northward.

I think Joseph Smith pictured Hagoth heading up the Susquehanna river.

Also, this is the key phrase which Shulem nailed, and I want to reiterate also:

And thus the land of Nephi and the land of Zarahemla were nearly surrounded by water there being a SMALL NECK OF LAND between the land northward and the land southward.

So, the area described is surrounded by water, save the small neck of land which Shulem details in earlier posts. There is literally no geographic region in the Americas that matches the description, save the delmarva peninsula. If Joseph Smith was plagiarizing the Late War (shout out to Dan Peterson), there simply isn’t any other explanation for this description to be included in the Book of Mormon. In poker, this is a tell. Joseph Smith gives his hand away, his plagiarism of the Late War by including these relatively unnecessary literary details.

- Doc

Indeed, this is where Joseph got his idea to launch Hagoth's ship into the land northward, the same route Captain Kidd took to bury treasure:





And so, what do you think of them apples, Dan Peterson?

Vogel?

[Moksha]

And so, what do you think of them apples, Dan Peterson?

Vogel?

This is the point where members of the audience stand up, start clapping, and shout "Auteur, auteur" forgetting they are on a message board rather than a movie theatre.

[Tator]

I think the treasure digger has no clothes. Shulem has exposed the plagiarized imagination of Ole Joe again. I have never heard of the Captain Kidd connection until today. Where have I been?

[Moksha]

Where have I been?

Des Moines, Iowa?

[MG 2.0]

Wouldn't it help…if you began to cite some apologists and their evidences instead?

Or at the very least not shrug them off as having little if any value?

You’ve limited yourself by starting off with the absolutist position that the Book of Mormon is purely fiction.

You may be building your house (map) on a foundation of sand.

Regards,
MG

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

Wouldn't it help…if you began to cite some apologists and their evidences instead?

Or at the very least not shrug them off as having little if any value?

You’ve limited yourself by starting off with the absolutist position that the Book of Mormon is purely fiction.

You may be building your house (map) on a foundation of sand.

Regards,
MG

-_-

[Philo Sofee]

Wouldn't it help…if you began to cite some apologists and their evidences instead?

Or at the very least not shrug them off as having little if any value?

You’ve limited yourself by starting off with the absolutist position that the Book of Mormon is purely fiction.

You may be building your house (map) on a foundation of sand.

Regards,
MG

That it is imagined as being actually ancient history is an absolutist position that has even less evidence than a fictional beginning.

[Marcus]

Shulem... the main problem you are having here is you appear to me to be taking Joseph Smith and what he taught to come to conclusions. You are only looking ar the primary direct evidence. Wouldn't it help your testimony if you began to cite some apologists and their evidences instead? I was just told in one of the comments to my live session from last Sunday Night that our problem is we want to do all our research without the Holy Ghost, and instead are discussing things.

So instead of going to what Joseph Smith said, it would be more enlightening to let the Holy Ghost testify to you concerning what today's apologists are saying about what Joseph Smith meant! See? we are really screwing up here and missing the truth of all these things because we haven't tuned into the inspired apologists, and instead just use the mere ideas of the Prophet hisself. We really ought to re-think our strategy.

Id love to know how you responded.

[Shulem]

Wouldn't it help…if you began to cite some apologists and their evidences instead?

Or at the very least not shrug them off as having little if any value?

You’ve limited yourself by starting off with the absolutist position that the Book of Mormon is purely fiction.

You may be building your house (map) on a foundation of sand.

Regards,
MG

MG,

I wasn't going to respond to your post but have since changed my mind and figure a response is appropriate.

1. I have read enough apologetic Book of Mormon geography material over the course of my lifetime in which I do not and will not read any more of that crap. I'm done with it. Period.

2. Before "losing" my testimony (thank goodness), my absolutist position was that the Book of Mormon was nonfiction -- a historical record. I maintained that position for a very long time. So, I have plenty of experience and a long track record of testing and proving the nonfiction approach of the Book of Mormon. That, however, failed.

3. IF my theory of Delmarva is not a house of cards or a mound of sand as you suggest it "may" be, then that means I'm right. And, if I'm right about Delmarva, then you might as well accept it.

I hope you have read the thread. I hope you pick up the "golden key" and turn the lock. You see, the narrow neck is that key and the lands and waters surrounding it are the lock. All you have to do is put the key in that lock and turn it to open the door. THEN, you can see what Joseph Smith saw. It's that easy.

Hey look, it's Captain Kidd!

[Shulem]

The only difference is, he probably had no idea that there even was a Delmarva peninsula.

As mentioned earlier in this thread, the great Chesapeake canal project was ongoing when Joseph was a lad and at the time he defined the Indians and their civilization as mother Smith explained. The canal was a major national undertaking in which the entire Smith family would have known about it and probably seen some kind of map showing what the project entailed. Thousands of people worked on the canal.

Everybody who was somebody and everyone who knew anyone knew about the canal construction taking place down on the Delmarva peninsula. It was as American as apple pie and adjacent to the cities of Washington DC and Philadelphia. Everyone knew! Even the Smith family.

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Danville Pirate Treasure

Hey, look, it's Captain Kidd!