Did Joseph Smith Die in a "shoot out"?
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Who Cares? Missing the point here...
You can argue whether or not it was a Gunfight (both sides had guns, duh), but he was a criminal - An adulterous, unethical, lying, cheating thieving unconvicted criminal. The record stands on it's own merits.
Joseph Smith knew he was going to die ("as a lamb to the slaughter") and he knew his "friends" that remained with him were in mortal peril. He could have commanded them to leave and they would have left. But he did not. Instead, he and his brother took up arms - to either defend themselves or those that had no business being with them. Either way, they all broke some serious laws that day. Nowdays it would be considered a felony to smuggle in or posses even an unloaded firearm into a prison complex without explicit authorization.
It was frontier justice. The Dirtbags finally had their come-upin's. It's only regretable that he wasn't sent to Jesus sooner to be judged for his Crimes Against Humanity.
If only the group of concerned citizens knew that Brigham Young would carry on the reprehensible acts of adultery etc., they would no doubt, have hunted him and his co-conspiritors down like dogs as well.
Sure, the citizens should not have stooped to Smith's level of lawlessness. They ought to have been patient to let the wheels of justice grind the form of their punishment.
Joseph Smith knew he was going to die ("as a lamb to the slaughter") and he knew his "friends" that remained with him were in mortal peril. He could have commanded them to leave and they would have left. But he did not. Instead, he and his brother took up arms - to either defend themselves or those that had no business being with them. Either way, they all broke some serious laws that day. Nowdays it would be considered a felony to smuggle in or posses even an unloaded firearm into a prison complex without explicit authorization.
It was frontier justice. The Dirtbags finally had their come-upin's. It's only regretable that he wasn't sent to Jesus sooner to be judged for his Crimes Against Humanity.
If only the group of concerned citizens knew that Brigham Young would carry on the reprehensible acts of adultery etc., they would no doubt, have hunted him and his co-conspiritors down like dogs as well.
Sure, the citizens should not have stooped to Smith's level of lawlessness. They ought to have been patient to let the wheels of justice grind the form of their punishment.
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Trevor wrote:Bond...James Bond wrote:Starring Emilio Estevez as Joseph Smith, Kiefer Sutherland as Hyrum Smith, and Lou Diamond Philips as Brown Beer, the 4th Nephite.
Damn straight. Sells itself. A sure-fire blockbuster. An Oscar shoe in!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Awv7ROHCNtg
The only thing that could make a Joseph Smith shootout ending better are:
1) Al Pacino
2) cocaine
3) a combo grenade launcher/M16 machine gun
3) Alot of pissed off drug warriors
"Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded."-charity 3/7/07
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Bond...James Bond wrote:Trevor wrote:Bond...James Bond wrote:Starring Emilio Estevez as Joseph Smith, Kiefer Sutherland as Hyrum Smith, and Lou Diamond Philips as Brown Beer, the 4th Nephite.
Damn straight. Sells itself. A sure-fire blockbuster. An Oscar shoe in!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Awv7ROHCNtg
The only thing that could make a Joseph Smith shootout ending better are:
1) Al Pacino
2) cocaine
3) a combo grenade launcher/M16 machine gun
3) Alot of pissed off drug warriors
Pacino makes everything better!
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Currently when police and an individual have weapons and both discharge their weapons (more than not resulting in the non-police officers death) it's refered to as "exhanging fire."
Shoot out and gun fight both remind me of the Wild Wild West, which reminds me of BYU and how they always edited that song at dances.
I've been going to Carthage Jail my entire life (every few years.) They used to show you Hyrum Smiths blood on the floorboards and the exact spot where Joseph Smith died (outside, next to the well) but no longer do. It seems I did know he had a gun but never knew why he had been jailed until just last year.
Also, when two bi***es are fighting that would be a bi****fight. Lots of hair pulling.
Shoot out and gun fight both remind me of the Wild Wild West, which reminds me of BYU and how they always edited that song at dances.
I've been going to Carthage Jail my entire life (every few years.) They used to show you Hyrum Smiths blood on the floorboards and the exact spot where Joseph Smith died (outside, next to the well) but no longer do. It seems I did know he had a gun but never knew why he had been jailed until just last year.
Also, when two bi***es are fighting that would be a bi****fight. Lots of hair pulling.
Insert ironic quote from fellow board member here.
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