This is what I meant. The person who has left the Church, and by that I mean does not believe the doctrines, the leaders, the authority, etc. but his name is still on the membership records, still is given some credibility when he speaks, due to his membership in the Church. The statements he makes mean more to non-LDS just becuse he is a member. He has access to members in terms of attendance at Church and activities where people assume he is an active member in good standing.
It is the subterfuge that is disturbing. A person should be upfront with their beliefs. There is no reason why they can't still attend Church, but it should not be in disguise. If the person no longer believes, be honest about it.
And the Church has a system in place for this. One can be ex'd for apostasy. What constitutes such and action is not up to you or Will unless he is a bishop or SP. But one who has some unbelief or even entire unbelief but participates for whatever reasons he/she has and is not a pot stirrer should be left the hell alone. Everyone has their own utility they get out of the Church and it is their business and not yours. Busy body members that thing they ought to go about purging, correcting and accusing seed more discontent in a ward then the quiet so called apostate.
Move their spouse and children out with them? There is no reason why their family relationships can't stay the same (unless there is dysfucntion going on anyway), and wives and children have their own agency. No one should interfere with another's agency.
Aren't you and Will talking about interfering with one's agency. Does and unbelieving spouse or Father then have the right to share is disbelief with his family? Should Runtu try to yank his family out because activities like Will's will cause one like Runtu top move down that path. Better to leave him alone, let him vent on a message board where 99% of all active members will never read what he says and then let him work his own peace with his wife. But were I he and some fool like Will made an issue for me I would resign and then I would do all I could to take my wife and kids with me. And guess what? The effort of one like Will would play in my favor with my wife and Kids. This is what I call perilous piety and Will, and you Charity, ooze it. It is a dangerous thing.
Go to Church to keep the family together? There is major dysfunction going on it a believing spouse makes that a condition of keeping a marriage together. The believing spouse does not respect the non-believer and is exercising unrighteous dominon. There should be counseling for that if that is the case.
And what is the root of that dysfunction Charity?