moksha wrote:I know BC is very conservative, but I think he is joking. Otherwise it would be as offensive as if someone had said that atheistic or religious idiots should shut up.
I say this as a liberal LDS Democrat who may or may not be an idiot, but nevertheless refuses to shut up.
I don't know why it is deemed offensive to be asked to keep a belief in fairy tales to yourself, especially when such beliefs interfere with public policy.
If said beliefs were true, seems like said believer would be content in knowing that they are right and are on the right path.
With all due respect, it appears to me that many folks with views similar to yours are trying to restrict my right to express my opinions in society generally. I've been tolerant on this MB of your views even though they greatly differ from my own. Who is the extremist here? It's you.
Richard I am not saying you don't have the right to express your opinion in society generally. I think you're a great guy.
Expressing your opinion is different than forcing your beliefs on us. Like I said, I wouldn't care - if people could keep their beliefs to themselves.
If people were content simply speaking out against assisted suicide - or whatever personal choice the religious right wants to control - than Kevorkian would not have been confined to a prison cell. People would either choose to employ his services or not. But we both know that is not the reality. If fairy tale pie in the sky stories were not being imposed on me, I wouldn't feel so put out by the believers of them.
GoodK wrote:and kids can't get birth control because of you idiots
How old are the kids you're talking about? Why do you think they have a right to birth control?
It's not whether or not I think they have a right to birth control (of course I do) it is whether or not I have the right to tell someone what to do with their body.
I don't. The Christian right doesn't either. Fairy tales about bearded old men in sandals should have no bearing on someone's life unless they want it to. But of course the religious idiots can't be content with not purchasing birth control themselves. Or brainwashing their kids into believing birth control and sex is evil. Nope. They can't do it. They can't just shut up about it. They have to hijack the government and rub their crap all over the rest of us.
GoodK wrote:and kids can't get birth control because of you idiots
How old are the kids you're talking about? Why do you think they have a right to birth control?
It's not whether or not I think they have a right to birth control (of course I do) it is whether or not I have the right to tell someone what to do with their body. I don't. The Christian right doesn't either. Fairy tales about bearded old men in sandals should have no bearing on someone's life unless they want it to. But of course the religious idiots can't be content with not purchasing birth control themselves. Or brainwashing their kids into believing birth control and sex is evil. Nope. They can't do it. They can't just shut up about it. They have to hijack the government and rub their crap all over the rest of us.
You didn't answer my question. How old are the kids you're talking about?
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
GoodK wrote:Could we have the ACLU'Relief Society and the right to lifers just go at it in Cuba so sane, moderate, logical, thinking people could just live. I don't want to spend 10 million bucks to have the cross taken off the bell tower off the LA city crest, nobody cares about that. But pharmacists are refusing to dispense birth control.
Too true. Let the psychos on both ends kill each other in an ultimate battle. Heck we can have it at Megiddo (that should satisfy the conservatives) and we can use enviromentally friendly solar powered machine guns for the lefties. Put it on pay per view and make T-shirts. Coggins can lead a brigade in the conservative faction. Oh yeah!
"Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded."-charity 3/7/07
Don't get me wrong. I'm not opposed to assisted suicide, per se. It is my opinion, however, that Kevorkian is something akin to a serial killer whose victim of choice is the terminally ill. I think he is masking a sick delight in killing with the altruistic veneer of putting terminally ill persons out of their misery.
So under what conditions is assisted suicide acceptable to you?
GoodK wrote:But pharmacists are refusing to dispense birth control.
Refusing to dispense birth control to whom? Does anyone know what GoodK is talking about?
I'm not sure what GoodK is talking about in particular, but there have been some problems in various areas in the US where pharmacists have refused to fulfill morning-after pill prescriptions (which is really just a combination of birth-control pills), and occasionally even birth control prescriptions (particularly if the woman is unmarried) because of their religious beliefs. Legislation has been introduced in various states (and maybe federally - I can't recall for sure) requiring that pharmacies fulfill all prescriptions, or at least send the person seeking a prescription to a nearby pharmacy that will.
I may be going to hell in a bucket, babe / But at least I'm enjoying the ride.
-Grateful Dead (lyrics by John Perry Barlow)
HHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA, I just have to express how this thread is making me feel. LOL, I don't even know why I find it funny, but perhaps I should say where I found it funny... On page two, when plagerism came into it. Gosh... Perhaps it is just because I haven't actually been following the threads lately.
GoodK, it would appear that when you started this thread, you were having a bad day. I hope you are feeling better now.
GoodK wrote:But pharmacists are refusing to dispense birth control.
Refusing to dispense birth control to whom? Does anyone know what GoodK is talking about?
I'm not sure what GoodK is talking about in particular, but there have been some problems in various areas in the US where pharmacists have refused to fulfill morning-after pill prescriptions (which is really just a combination of birth-control pills), and occasionally even birth control prescriptions (particularly if the woman is unmarried) because of their religious beliefs. Legislation has been introduced in various states (and maybe federally - I can't recall for sure) requiring that pharmacies fulfill all prescriptions, or at least send the person seeking a prescription to a nearby pharmacy that will.
Thanks, skippy. Prior, he mentioned that "kids can't get birth control". Do you know anything about that?
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
