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There IS a reason why polyandry isn't practiced widely, nor is it institutionalized like polygamy. If you think about it having a few husbands would much better suit a woman's need than sharing one husband with a few women.
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asbestosman wrote:
[sarcasm] No, that fact that I'm not HORRIFIED by polygamy and don't demonize it as being as inherently wrong as child abuse proves that I don't have a deep love for my wife and that I consider myself nothing more than a sperm donor.[/sarcasm]
I think you point out well that many Mormons believe that the angel with the flaming sword was real rather than a metaphor for the libido.
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Moniker wrote:Well, I know plenty of women that don't desire to have sex at all. I suppose it just depends on who you talk to. :)
LOL! Yeah, I suppose I'm just a perv. ;)
Antishock wrote:There IS a reason why polyandry isn't practiced widely, nor is it institutionalized like polygamy. If you think about it having a few husbands would much better suit a woman's need than sharing one husband with a few women.
If you read any of my "Shady Acres Goddess Suite" threads, you will notice that polyandry is the norm. LOL
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so is it settled yet that women do have a sex drive, and that it isn't some small kind of 'sure why not' thing that's lower than a man's. If not I can just say that yes, I am a woman (well teenage female) and I do have a sex drive. (but being 16 I'm not usually supposed to talk about sex, doing drugs, or porn without a few stares lol)
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TD I was always taught that the first wife had to give permission for additional wives to come into the family. I'm not saying that there was no coercion involved, but theoretically speaking I can see polygamy as less disrespectful under certain rules such as this. It makes me think of the situation in the Bible where Sariah offers Abraham her handmaiden as a means of obtaining posterity. As I read the story, I understand this was a struggle for her, but she did give permission for it. I didn't see it as Abraham breaking her heart in doing this. I'm not saying this is necessarily what happened. I'm just trying to envision it under the best circumstances for the woman.
Surprisingly enough, I too am not waiting for the day to be blessed with many wives. I could envision a scenario in which my wife wanted to bring a second female into the relationship. But I don't think it would ever occur as a result of me demanding it and breaking her heart. And as it is now, I couldn't support the number of children that one woman could give me, let alone two or three.
I new a very good man in UT. His wife was tragically killed in a car accident. They had 11 children together. They were a wonderful missionary couple. She was probably one of the finest women I've ever met. As spiritual as he was, he was depressed and bitter about her death for a while. 3 years later he married her sister. Some of us even felt like his first wife was there at the temple, as if she had orchestrated the marriage from across the veil. I honestly don't believe the first wife was jealous or upset by this relationship, if indeed she saw it from across the veil. I think they'll probably be happy to all be together in the next life. But these people lived in a higher level of spirituality than most and therefore I wouldn't expect everyone to understand this. Sometimes a person remarrying after the death of a spouse says something good about the first spouse. Had the first spouse been a selfish and difficult person, perhaps the surviving spouse would have been turned off to marriage completely.
Surprisingly enough, I too am not waiting for the day to be blessed with many wives. I could envision a scenario in which my wife wanted to bring a second female into the relationship. But I don't think it would ever occur as a result of me demanding it and breaking her heart. And as it is now, I couldn't support the number of children that one woman could give me, let alone two or three.
I new a very good man in UT. His wife was tragically killed in a car accident. They had 11 children together. They were a wonderful missionary couple. She was probably one of the finest women I've ever met. As spiritual as he was, he was depressed and bitter about her death for a while. 3 years later he married her sister. Some of us even felt like his first wife was there at the temple, as if she had orchestrated the marriage from across the veil. I honestly don't believe the first wife was jealous or upset by this relationship, if indeed she saw it from across the veil. I think they'll probably be happy to all be together in the next life. But these people lived in a higher level of spirituality than most and therefore I wouldn't expect everyone to understand this. Sometimes a person remarrying after the death of a spouse says something good about the first spouse. Had the first spouse been a selfish and difficult person, perhaps the surviving spouse would have been turned off to marriage completely.
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antishock8 wrote:There IS a reason why polyandry isn't practiced widely, nor is it institutionalized like polygamy. If you think about it having a few husbands would much better suit a woman's need than sharing one husband with a few women.
Anna Nicole Smith came pretty close to achieving it in my view. I still think it depends on the woman. While there are exceptions, like Anna Nicole, most women I've met don't really struggle with strong sexual urges.
I heard of a study where a woman wanted to learn what it felt like to be a man so she started taking testosterone. Her sex drive of course went through the roof. Some women have more testosterone than others. Some women have more sex drive than others. But women almost always have less testosterone than men, and sex drive is directly proportional to testosterone levels.
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TygerFang wrote:so is it settled yet that women do have a sex drive, and that it isn't some small kind of 'sure why not' thing that's lower than a man's. If not I can just say that yes, I am a woman (well teenage female) and I do have a sex drive. (but being 16 I'm not usually supposed to talk about sex, doing drugs, or porn without a few stares lol)
Being male I see a stark difference between a desire for drugs and a desire for sex. Men are born sex addicts and will always have this desire no matter what they do. Some may control it better than others, but they all have the desire. Drug addiction only occurs if you try using drugs for a while.
Does your sex drive make you chase boys? Do you buy stuff for them to win their affection? Do you have hard time not chasing other boys when you're committed to one? Who initiates sex more often, you or the boy? I'm not saying girls don't have a sex drive. Female animals seem to have a very strong sex drive at certain times. But a woman's sex drive is nowhere near as strong as a man's.
One interesting example I had was a friend of mine whose girlfriend cheated on him. She was sorry she did it and wanted him back. His reply was, "I understand him and what he wanted, but I don't understand you and what you wanted by doing this." Do you think women cheat just for sex? I personally don't. I think it has to do with getting attention or something else more than just sex. I've noticed that most relationships in which the woman cheats usually end. Relationships in which the man cheats often survive. Look at the Clintons for example. Bill loves Hillary and she's his wife and probably always will be, but this doesn't stop Bill from trying to nail everything that isn't nailed down. He's emotionally attached to Hillary. His affairs are just about sex. And yes I have more respect for what a polygamous man does than what Bill Clinton does. One of the worst parts for me about being cheated on is knowing that you've been lied to. At least polygamy in theory is not deceitful.
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ajax18 wrote:TygerFang wrote:so is it settled yet that women do have a sex drive, and that it isn't some small kind of 'sure why not' thing that's lower than a man's. If not I can just say that yes, I am a woman (well teenage female) and I do have a sex drive. (but being 16 I'm not usually supposed to talk about sex, doing drugs, or porn without a few stares lol)
Being male I see a stark difference between a desire for drugs and a desire for sex. Men are born sex addicts and will always have this desire no matter what they do. Some may control it better than others, but they all have the desire. Drug addiction only occurs if you try using drugs for a while.
Does your sex drive make you chase boys? Do you buy stuff for them to win their affection? Do you have hard time not chasing other boys when you're committed to one? Who initiates sex more often, you or the boy? I'm not saying girls don't have a sex drive. Female animals seem to have a very strong sex drive at certain times. But a woman's sex drive is nowhere near as strong as a man's.
One interesting example I had was a friend of mine whose girlfriend cheated on him. She was sorry she did it and wanted him back. His reply was, "I understand him and what he wanted, but I don't understand you and what you wanted by doing this." Do you think women cheat just for sex? I personally don't. I think it has to do with getting attention or something else more than just sex. I've noticed that most relationships in which the woman cheats usually end. Relationships in which the man cheats often survive. Look at the Clintons for example. Bill loves Hillary and she's his wife and probably always will be, but this doesn't stop Bill from trying to nail everything that isn't nailed down. He's emotionally attached to Hillary. His affairs are just about sex. And yes I have more respect for what a polygamous man does than what Bill Clinton does. One of the worst parts for me about being cheated on is knowing that you've been lied to. At least polygamy in theory is not deceitful.
the part in the end of my post in the parenthesis wasn't made to link sex addiction with drug addiction by the way.
and as for the rest of your post, very well written and an interesting example. However unless you have undeniable proof it's hard to see it as little more than speculation. As for my romantic interests and sex drive, I do have a healthy sex drive trust me I know (<,< don't look at me like I'm a perv...) but no I have not found any interest in men, not yet or perhaps not. I'll question that later. However none of that proves anything without a doubt. It is simply one well chosen extreme example, a persuasive emotion based argument, and a this or that ending.
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TygerFang, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZ0jRuASVEQ
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