BKP Predicts the End of the World as We Know It?

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Re: BKP Predicts the End of the World as We Know It?

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Inconceivable wrote:
Fortunately for the human race ("wicked" or otherwise), BKP's priesthood probably doesn't have the power to command the elements. To speak the words he did demonstrates what a vindictive, naïve and twisted little creep he is.


"Probably"? You're qualifying your statement with a "probably"?

Okay, I didn't take it quite that way, when he said "catastrophe". I thought he was referring to the current economic problem, not an in-the-near-future catastrophe involving the elements. He can't be blamed for the economic catastrophe, although he can warn those who might be sleeping through F&T meeting that they're going to have to tighten their belts.

So far, we've called him a pit bull, a grizzly, and a little creep. We're really on a roll!
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Re: BKP Predicts the End of the World as We Know It?

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Harmony said:

So far, we've called him a pit bull, a grizzly, and a little creep. We're really on a roll!


How about, just another old man whose celebrity keeps in the lime light as a relic of another time to be respected for his longevity; not for his brilliance. Like many of the rest of us old geezers ;-)

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Re: BKP Predicts the End of the World as We Know It?

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harmony wrote:
So far, we've called him a pit bull, a grizzly, and a little creep. We're really on a roll!



You left out "prophet".

Here it is, fifteen years after the following words came from his mouth in a public setting where his words were actually transcribed correctly:


There are three areas where members of the Church, influenced by social and political unrest, are being caught up and led away. I chose these three because they have made major invasions into the membership of the Church. In each, the temptation is for us to turn about and face the wrong way, and it is hard to resist, for doing it seems so reasonable and right.

The dangers I speak of come from the gay-lesbian movement, the feminist movement (both of which are relatively new), and the ever-present challenge from the so-called scholars or intellectuals. Our local leaders must deal with all three of them with ever-increasing frequency...



And here we are. Carry on scholars and intellectuals...

Oh, if there are any feminists (third wave) or gay/lesbians (or those that support their causes) in these parts, ditto to the above.

Fifteen years ago. He nailed it.

Back to the original thread topic...

It's interesting how a number of individuals on this thread fed into the BKP story before they had verified for themselves as to whether or not this talk was actually given verbatim (pre-conceived notions of BKP anyone?).


...still a man hears what he wants to hear
and disregards the rest...

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I had received the text of the talk a couple weeks ago from my sister and the first thing my wife questioned was why he would say some of the things he purportedly did in an isolated ward (my wife is strictly TBM). Good catch on her part. TD, Persephone, and Dr. Shades questioned the absolute accuracy of the source on the first page of the thread...good call. I went back and checked with my sister who then followed up and found that the "after the fact" evidence pointed towards the text of the talk being a mix of BKP's words and the person doing the transcribing. In other words's, it was untrustworthy as a sourcetext of what BKP really said verbatim.

Made good press for some to start poking jabs Elder Packer's direction though.

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MG
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mentalgymnast wrote: TD, Persephone, and Dr. Shades questioned the absolute accuracy of the source on the first page of the thread...good call. I went back and checked with my sister who then followed up and found that the "after the fact" evidence pointed towards the text of the talk being a mix of BKP's words and the person doing the transcribing. In other words's, it was untrustworthy as a sourcetext of what BKP really said verbatim.


Perhaps they were the only ones who mentioned it. I was replying to Pers. post/s.

This kind of BS coming from members was all too common in the 1980s in particular, when GBH was the subject of very similar urban legends.

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Ray A wrote:
mentalgymnast wrote: TD, Persephone, and Dr. Shades questioned the absolute accuracy of the source on the first page of the thread...good call. I went back and checked with my sister who then followed up and found that the "after the fact" evidence pointed towards the text of the talk being a mix of BKP's words and the person doing the transcribing. In other words's, it was untrustworthy as a sourcetext of what BKP really said verbatim.


Perhaps they were the only ones who mentioned it. I was replying to Pers. post/s.

This kind of BS coming from members was all too common in the 1980s in particular, when GBH was the subject of very similar urban legends.

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Well, I'm comforted in the fact that you saw it coming. As I said in my initial post on this thread, however, it doesn't seem to take much to get people going on BKP. Whether they're making their comments on factual/correct and complete information...or not... doesn't seem to be all that important.

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MG
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harmony wrote:
Inconceivable wrote:Fortunately for the human race ("wicked" or otherwise), BKP's priesthood probably doesn't have the power to command the elements.

"Probably"? You're qualifying your statement with a "probably"?


Sure. Regardless of whether the church is run by an actual perfect God or not, I've witnessed some pretty amazing things performed in the name of the melchizedek priesthood.

Whatever this power is, you would think the bestower would be more selective in who channels it.
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mentalgymnast wrote:Well, I'm comforted in the fact that you saw it coming. As I said in my initial post on this thread, however, it doesn't seem to take much to get people going on BKP. Whether they're making their comments on factual/correct and complete information...or not... doesn't seem to be all that important.
Regards,
MG


Until the hierarchy prints an official statement outlining what is and is not preposterous, the "testimony" will continue to circulate and create fear, anxiety and increase the revenues of year-end tithing settlements.
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Inconceivable wrote:
Until the hierarchy prints an official statement outlining what is and is not preposterous, the "testimony" will continue to circulate and create fear, anxiety and increase the revenues of year-end tithing settlements.


*bolding mine.

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Re: BKP Predicts the End of the World as We Know It?

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Interesting post MG. Which of the two missals attributed to BKP would you suggest disenhance (enhance?) him the most? How much credibility should he be accorded?

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Inconceivable wrote:
mentalgymnast wrote:Well, I'm comforted in the fact that you saw it coming. As I said in my initial post on this thread, however, it doesn't seem to take much to get people going on BKP. Whether they're making their comments on factual/correct and complete information...or not... doesn't seem to be all that important.
Regards,
MG


Until the hierarchy prints an official statement outlining what is and is not preposterous, the "testimony" will continue to circulate and create fear, anxiety and increase the revenues of year-end tithing settlements.


Here's an interesting read for you:

http://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php?p=2421

I especially like comment #12:

What we need is a Mormon snopes!


Regards,
MG
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