The Idiocy of Modern Mormonism.

[_moksha]

Ray A:

Loopy in what way, Kerry? And when? When he published his essay on post-Manifesto polygamy?

It was his absolutely atrociously amateur misreading, misquoting, and miscontexting the Same Sex Dynamics. Oh GAWD that was the most horrible thing I have ever read. Geez he blew it huge time with that tissue of idiocy. Totally ribaldly purple patch. It simply destroyed any credibility he had build for all those previous magnificent 20 years he had had....... I cried as I read the obvious blunders and deliberate goofs he wrote. I saw a hero of mine sink with his ship. A sad, sad day....

How dare Historians look at material in a different way!

[_Ray A]

How dare Historians look at material in a different way!

Indeed, and I think that's the whole point missing on those trying to discredit Quinn. (I realise you were offering a different POV) Quinn went into areas that were too sacrosanct for them to ever publish on, because in the end it would most likely cost them their Church membership too, so sanitised history continued to be written, with important exceptions like Bushman.

[_Ray A]

Speaking of idiotic, I think This has to be one of the most idiotic threads posted on MAD.

Looks like polygamy may have to come back to solve the problem of declining male births. Good luck, guys. I'll be gone by then.

[_Jason Bourne]

Interesting OP Ray. Some I can agree with some and I do not agree with you some others stuff especially about Scratch. You and I see him at diametric opposites. And about DCP as well. I think he sees good and wonderful things in humans that may not agree with Mormonism. I think he gets along fine with most people and even LDS critics that are fair and rational. Right wing fanatical Christians and angry hateful ex LDS he does not suffer well I agree.


I have seem lots and lots of posts from you and you seem to be circling back to where I first saw you at. That is ok though. It is a journey and I certainly do not see Mormonism, Christianity, religion or the world as I did many years ago. You are decent and respectful and I for one appreciate that.

[_Ray A]

Interesting OP Ray. Some I can agree with some and I do not agree with you some others stuff especially about Scratch. You and I see him at diametric opposites. And about DCP as well. I think he sees good and wonderful things in humans that may not agree with Mormonism. I think he gets along fine with most people and even LDS critics that are fair and rational. Right wing fanatical Christians and angry hateful ex LDS he does not suffer well I agree.

Thanks Jason. I appreciate your well-balanced comments. Let's just say that I've had some "insights" regarding Mister Scratch, personal insights, and I feel that rather than continuing and fostering this Mexican stand off a listening ear to other viewpoints could be very helpful. My view of DCP as a person hasn't changed, and I agree with your comments in general. I think DCP knows his own faults (as I do mine). Maybe it's time we saw some more "humble apologetics"?

I've criticised exmos for the same thing, but no one probably noticed. There's a reason I never post on exmo boards, and there's a reason I no longer post on pro-Mormon boards. I think someone as bright as you are can work out why.

I have seem lots and lots of posts from you and you seem to be circling back to where I first saw you at. That is ok though. It is a journey and I certainly do not see Mormonism, Christianity, religion or the world as I did many years ago. You are decent and respectful and I for one appreciate that.

I'm not sure where you first saw me at, but the reality is, Jason, I have both pro and con views, but I do admit that I'm slowly evolving away from my more "religious" views. I have five children who have nothing whatsoever to do with religion, and I brought them up. They are remarkably well-balanced and productive children, and I'm proud of them. One of my sons was "keen" to go on a mission, during the stage my wife and I were active, but I knew it was all fake. He was just keen because he'd been born and bred into the culture, but he really couldn't swallow it hook, line and sinker. I shudder to think, now, that he may have gone, and later become disillusioned with Mormonism, and have to go through divorce and other problems. And let's face it, it's not hard to lose TBM faith. A few months on Mormon Discussions will help enormously.

Am I in favour of faith? Jefferson, Tolstoy, A.N. Wilson style, yes. Am I infavour of "true belief"? Not when it goes into the extremes that Hoffer so roundly condemned, and where it leads to the destruction of people's lives.

[_Calculus Crusader]

Idiocy has characterized Mormonism since its inception; it is not a recent development.

[_Jason Bourne]

Idiocy has characterized Mormonism since its inception; it is not a recent development.

As I used to say as a child, it takes one to know one. Christianity is full if idiocy as well oh foolish man.

[_Calculus Crusader]

Christianity and Mormonism are not remotely on the same footing, but you are welcome to that delusion if it helps you sleep at night.

[_Jason Bourne]

Christianity and Mormonism are not remotely on the same footing, but you are welcome to that delusion if it helps you sleep at night.

Hey foolish man. I never said they were. Look at your own idiocy as it stand alone. It has tons of it. Tons. The never ending double standard of the fundamental Christian who used methods to tear down other faiths but refuse to apply the same methods to their own faith is just astounding. You seem to fit that paradigm very well.

by the way, I don't need to criticize religion to sleep well at night. I know the LDS Church has flaws. But so do all religions and so does yours, big ones.

It seems it is you who has to make your pretended pithy one liners that slam another faith in order to feel secure in your own. Get a life oh foolish man.

[_Calculus Crusader]

I'm not interested in what you think you know, but you don't, Jason.