rcrocket wrote:I'm not sure I believe it. It would make sense to say that she was denied access, and I don't know why she claims she wasn't.
It sounds as if she was denied access, but later convinced her uncle to grant (albeit reluctantly) access, but then she thought the better of it and never followed up to see the diary. I would like to know what was said between the two during the "difficult interview." Pres. McKay later (after the book was published) described how he felt "betrayed" by Fawn, which suggests to me he didn't know (or realize) the extent she would go after Joseph Smith.
I lack Bringhurst's bio of Brodie to see what he says.
Me as well.
"Moving beyond apologist persuasion, LDS polemicists furiously (and often fraudulently) attack any non-traditional view of Mormonism. They don't mince words -- they mince the truth."
-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
rcrocket wrote:Why don't you get it and enlighten us all.
I was going to ask you to do the same.
"Moving beyond apologist persuasion, LDS polemicists furiously (and often fraudulently) attack any non-traditional view of Mormonism. They don't mince words -- they mince the truth."
-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
rcrocket wrote:Why don't you get it and enlighten us all.
I was going to ask you to do the same.
I can only imagine that Dale is peeking in occasionally and could offer far more on the topic than any one else around.
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God has the right to create and to destroy, to make like and to kill. He can delegate this authority if he wishes to. I know that can be scary. Deal with it. Nehor.. Nov 08, 2010
One moment in annihilation's waste, one moment, of the well of life to taste- The stars are setting and the caravan starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste! -Omar Khayaam
LifeOnaPlate wrote:Uncle Dale is a Fawn Brodie expert?
That would be Bro. Bringhurst -- not Broadhurst.
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Doup! My bad.. carry on
God has the right to create and to destroy, to make like and to kill. He can delegate this authority if he wishes to. I know that can be scary. Deal with it. Nehor.. Nov 08, 2010
rcrocket wrote: Disparaging somebody because they have a "hidden agenda" is a pretty poor attempt at a comment. There wasn't anything hidden. Everybody associated with Brodie knew that her work wasn't going to be popular with the Brethren. She was upfront with David O'McKay about what she wanted to see and why she wanted to see it.
I'd be curious if you could point to any biography, either hers (Newell Bringhurst), McKay's (Prince) or Brooks (Peterson) where the claim is made that she hid her motives.
The reason I make this point and continue to make it is that it is farcical to claim that the Brethren were blindsided and victimized by the book, or that the Brethren closed the archives to Brodie. Neither occurred. They opened the archives to her with full knowledge of where things were headed. (What they did after the book was published is a different matter.) According to her published interview, which may or may not have been truthful, she didn't need the LDS archives for her work.
I applaud you for being a faithful Saint, and believe along with you, but don't get sucked into the ridiculous jargon of the combatants -- jargon which means nothing.
If I recall correctly, most of the information you're asking for is in Nibely, (Petersen). It's in a box in my basement. I'll dig it out and see how right I am. Based on my stats for today it's a crap shoot.
I have Prince's book in front of me. I'll take a look, but I know the section dealing with her is short.
One moment in annihilation's waste, one moment, of the well of life to taste- The stars are setting and the caravan starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste! -Omar Khayaam
Lamanite wrote:I have Prince's book in front of me. I'll take a look, but I know the section dealing with her is short.
I already checked Prince -- he doesn't really say anything that goes to this issue.
"Moving beyond apologist persuasion, LDS polemicists furiously (and often fraudulently) attack any non-traditional view of Mormonism. They don't mince words -- they mince the truth."
-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
