Simon, why did you put up a fake Facebook account?

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Re: Simon, why did you put up a fake Facebook account?

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Kishkumen wrote:You know, Simon, I did friend you on Facebook, but I have to say I am more than a little concerned about it. This has all the appearance of a bogus account. How can it possibly be the case that with all of your other family and friends you still only have two Facebook friends? Are you saying that we are to trust you with access to all of our friends and family, and yet you will not trust us with yours?


Hello Doctor Kishkumen,

I'm very, very sorry for you right now.

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Re: Simon, why did you put up a fake Facebook account?

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Chap wrote:...
What does this remind me of?
MW: Church policy had it that blacks had the mark of Cain. Brigham Young said, "Cain slew his brother, and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin."

GBH: It's behind us. Look, that's behind us. Don't worry about those little flicks of history.
...

I checked the word flick. (I didn't know it before.)
flick n.
1. A light quick blow, jerk, or touch: a flick of the wrist; gave my horse a flick with the reins.
2. The sound accompanying this motion.

Can a flick of history last more than hundred year? A little one?
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Re: Simon, why did you put up a fake Facebook account?

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ludwigm wrote:I checked the word flick. (I didn't know it before.)

It's a strange use of the word. I haven't heard anyone use it like that before. "Flick of history" is an odd phrase.

But perhaps he was using it to mean "motion picture" (another valid meaning). That way it could be a historical movie of any length that he would rather people not go to see, and that he would actually like to acquire and burn all the copies.
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Re: Simon, why did you put up a fake Facebook account?

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krose wrote:
ludwigm wrote:I checked the word flick. (I didn't know it before.)

It's a strange use of the word. I haven't heard anyone use it like that before. "Flick of history" is an odd phrase.

But perhaps he was using it to mean "motion picture" (another valid meaning). That way it could be a historical movie of any length that he would rather people not go to see, and that he would actually like to acquire and burn all the copies.


It's very hard to make out in the original recording. GBH could have been saying little "flecks" of history. Either way the point is that such things are minuscule and unimportant.
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Re: Simon, why did you put up a fake Facebook account?

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Everyone,

This has gotten out of hand.

I thought it would be fun to start a Facebook account -- it isn't.

I'm deleting it, but I do want to thank the following people for giving me a chance and "friending" me:

Liz
Kishkumen
Ray
Kevin Graham
Emily (I think that's her name on MDB)
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Re: Simon, why did you put up a fake Facebook account?

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Simon Belmont wrote:I'm deleting it, but I do want to thank the following people for giving me a chance and "friending" me:

Liz
Kishkumen
Ray
Kevin Graham
Emily (I think that's her name on MDB)


Say what? You have got to be kidding me. What's going on here, Simon? Is there some behind the scenes harassment going on?
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Re: Simon, why did you put up a fake Facebook account?

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Kishkumen wrote:Say what? You have got to be kidding me. What's going on here, Simon? Is there some behind the scenes harassment going on?


I just don't want to cause further disruption of the community.

I may re-enable the account at a future date.
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Simon Belmont wrote:I just don't want to cause further disruption of the community.

I may re-enable the account at a future date.


Well, Simon, I am really disappointed by this news. Your stock has taken a severe dip here. Some of your Facebook friends placed a lot of trust in you and were hopeful that this gesture would lead to better relations and more mutual trust. You have just pulled the rug out from under them. What's your deal, man?
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asbestosman wrote:I find it odd, Simon, that I'm apparently more paranoid about my identity than you are. I have indeed told some posters here what my identity is. I suspect that a few others may know. Yet I refuse to friend people on Facebook. Putting your real name out there puts your family at risk. You never know what some nutjob here could do. Most people here are probably safe, but there are some nutters who may do harm to your family. Putting your in real life information out there for everyone on this board is foolish. I hope, for their sake, that you did lie about your identity.


I take back what I said. I may be overly cautious about Facebook. Daniel Peterson is one of the most disliked LDS posters yet so far as I know his family has not been the target of attacks. There are other apologists who are disliked and yet have well-known identities.

Sorry for projecting.

Still, I don't intend to reveal my identity very widely.
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asbestosman wrote:
asbestosman wrote:I find it odd, Simon, that I'm apparently more paranoid about my identity than you are. I have indeed told some posters here what my identity is. I suspect that a few others may know. Yet I refuse to friend people on Facebook. Putting your real name out there puts your family at risk. You never know what some nutjob here could do. Most people here are probably safe, but there are some nutters who may do harm to your family. Putting your in real life information out there for everyone on this board is foolish. I hope, for their sake, that you did lie about your identity.


I take back what I said. I may be overly cautious about Facebook. Daniel Peterson is one of the most disliked LDS posters yet so far as I know his family has not been the target of attacks. There are other apologists who are disliked and yet have well-known identities.

Sorry for projecting.

Still, I don't intend to reveal my identity very widely.


I understand your caution, asbestos. I am sorry I don't have another venue to interact with you on, though, because I like you very much and would love to get to know you better. After all, you are one of the few people who've ever managed to break through my math-phobia and teach me a few things! That's very nearly a miracle!

I use Facebook as a kind of clearinghouse of communication. I have a lot friends and acquaintances across the globe, most of them academics, writers, and artists. I also have a handful of old friends from earlier times in my life that the internet has made possible to reconnect with. And I have a few outstanding former students who have also become real friends. I could not manage to separately email this amount of people. So Facebook provides a one-stop-shopping approach to keeping in touch and a venue for me to pass on information to people whose tastes overlap mine. I use it to post links to cool websites, archives, information about concerts, museum exhibits, and things like that. I also use it to talk about teaching with my friends at other universities. I have a few family members on my Facebook, but not many simply because not many of them are on Facebook in the first place.

I've never worried much about identity problems with it. Anything that I would not want widely available I communicate in personal email. I am a bit cautious in this respect because of an earlier experience.

One of the first message boards I participated in, way back in the late 90's, was a message board connected to a very prestigious online fashion magazine. This board grew into a community much like MDB: although we originally came to talk design, soon we were talking about all kind of other topics and making solid friendships. (Of the twenty or so people who participated regularly on that board, I have met 18 in real life, including people from Finland, Mexico City, Hong Kong, England and Canada.) One of our regular topics was ideas for magazine layouts. We came up with some very cool and unique spreads which, surprise, surprise, started to appear in Vogue, Dutch, Marie Claire and other magazines. Obviously, our ideas were being ripped off by lurkers. And that's why I stopped discussing anything I am working on in public.

So, that's the only concern I've ever had with real life information on public message boards. Of course, this board has given me some new food for thought. I'd really rather put as much cyber distance between myself and some of the creepier posters on this board (and MDD) because their antics squick me out. I don't have anything "Mormon" to hide; none of my LDS friends would give a fig about some internet goober calling me an anti-mormon bigot. I just don't like the icky feeling that some self-proclaimed defender of the faith is sliming around my little bit of the internet.
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