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_just me
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Re: Need some advice

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Well, of course it could be a troll or attention needy person. I don't think we'll ever know now. We have had some rather random people come on and start out by asking things like if it is okay to masturbate to give a sample to their doctor...

But, srsly, now I need to go watch some gay men make out. This thread, I swear.
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just me wrote:I think y'all are terrible and have probably frightened our new friend away.

OP, if your young Mormon friend is a true believer he may have very negative feelings towards bisexuality and homosexuality. He may be cruel or he may be kind and understanding. It is a crapshoot.

Please, please be careful about what you share with your bishop. Do not give him control over you or your spirituality. I am worried that you are going to get your heart broken.

That is why I asked the questions I asked.

I got the impression that she had already told the bishop about her bisexuality. What you brought up, Just Me, is a very good point.

Outcast, if you have not actually ACTED on your sexual desires with women, I'm not even sure if you ARE actually truly bisexual. Having fantasies involving other women is perfectly natural. It's nothing to be ashamed of, and it doesn't mean that you can't live a perfectly happy life being monogamously married to a man.

And, frankly...even if you have had sexual experiences with other women, if they are in the past, my personal opinion is that you really don't need to discuss it with the Bishop unless YOU feel it is the only way to clear your conscience.

As far as discussing your past with your boyfriend is concerned...I honestly don't think that you have to say anything to him about it. It is in the past. It is your business. If you do not have any STD's, then you have no obligation, as far as I'm concerned. The past is the past. Let it stay there.
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You know what? Even if Outcast is a troll, it really doesn't matter. It's an interesting topic, and, if people can be mature, could be a very interesting adult discussion.

I wonder if acting as adults is too much to ask?
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liz3564 wrote:
just me wrote:I think y'all are terrible and have probably frightened our new friend away.

OP, if your young Mormon friend is a true believer he may have very negative feelings towards bisexuality and homosexuality. He may be cruel or he may be kind and understanding. It is a crapshoot.

Please, please be careful about what you share with your bishop. Do not give him control over you or your spirituality. I am worried that you are going to get your heart broken.

That is why I asked the questions I asked.

I got the impression that she had already told the bishop about her bisexuality. What you brought up, Just Me, is a very good point.

Outcast, if you have not actually ACTED on your sexual desires with women, I'm not even sure if you ARE actually truly bisexual. Having fantasies involving other women is perfectly natural. It's nothing to be ashamed of, and it doesn't mean that you can't live a perfectly happy life being monogamously married to a man.

And, frankly...even if you have had sexual experiences with other women, if they are in the past, my personal opinion is that you really don't need to discuss it with the Bishop unless YOU feel it is the only way to clear your conscience.

As far as discussing your past with your boyfriend is concerned...I honestly don't think that you have to say anything to him about it. It is in the past. It is your business. If you do not have any STD's, then you have no obligation, as far as I'm concerned. The past is the past. Let it stay there.



That's good advice, but it might be better if you shared a couple of these so called past "experiences" with us here at the board so we could make a determination if you need to tell your boyfriend.

I know LDSToronto, Ceeboo, Zee and others would agree that it might be a good idea to share some of these stories here, or if you don't feel comfortable, you can share them in the Writer's Workshop Forum.

Outcast, just remember, we are all here to help.
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just me wrote:But, srsly, now I need to go watch some gay men make out. This thread, I swear.


I am willing to believe you, though. I'm shocked and intrigued with your comment. :). Please let us know how it goes.
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:I know LDSToronto, Ceeboo, Zee and others would agree that it might be a good idea to share some of these stories here, or if you don't feel comfortable, you can share them in the Writer's Workshop Forum.

Outcast, just remember, we are all here to help.


Perhaps photos would also help.
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liz3564 wrote:You know what? Even if Outcast is a troll, it really doesn't matter. It's an interesting topic, and, if people can be mature, could be a very interesting adult discussion.

I wonder if acting as adults is too much to ask?


I see your point. I'm not sure this OP should be taken seriously, though.

If anyone is acting in an adolescent way, it may be because the OP cannot be seen as legitimate. It is an interesting subject and one I have not seen discussed here.

Maybe a new thread?
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LDSToronto wrote:
Of course I think it's possible - my neighbours were a committed lesbian couple.
But, guys, srsly...

How many:
1. Women in their twenties (lots of them)
2. Show up here (a few, I imagine)
3. Out themselves as bisexual (hmmm, none that i've heard of)
4. Start conversations with complete strangers about their sexual history (unless I've missed some juicy threads)
5. State that they don't know how/when to tell the guy they are interested in that they like girl-lovin' (even though they've just done #3 and #4)

I mean, really? This sounds less like, "hi, i'm really sincere" and more like, "Dear Penthouse letters.."

H.


LDST, these were my thoughts, too. Then I remembered the whole "light cotton" thread from when I was a lurker (apologies to 'why me'--you know that we all love you). And then there was the first time I saw someone posting sketches of things that were supposedly on the side of a mountain (I've since learned how awesome you are, Nightlion). I could go on for some time, but I won't (don't pout, Simon). Anyway, now I'm a little cautious about calling BS. So, I thought I'd see how this thread developed. Perhaps it's about a real, cool (albeit, unusual) person, just like those others.
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Hey Liz,

liz3564 wrote:You know what? Even if Outcast is a troll, it really doesn't matter.


I would suggest (as seems to be firmly supported by the posts in the thread) that is does indeed matter.

It's an interesting topic, and, if people can be mature, could be a very interesting adult discussion.


I don't think the banter you have seen (judged?) has anything to do with maturity, interest, or adult discussions.

I wonder if acting as adults is too much to ask?


I promise, if you were to start a thread about this topic (I also find it interesting with many layers involved), I will put my slinky away and do my best to behave in an adult fashion.

by the way: I heard you sing on another thread. LOVELY :)

Peace,
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liz3564 wrote:
I wonder if acting as adults is too much to ask?


I'm wondering if you are really wondering, or is it more that you're wondering in the parental wondering sense in that you're not really wondering but your already know your answer and aren't wondering at all.
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