Runtu wrote:I've never said your experience or Mattie's is illegitimate. I'm happy you were never asked that. I wish I had your bishops.
I know you didn't. I'm just saying she has just as much right to give her impressions about the topic as you without having to be told she's calling other people liars. I see now that you have apologized to her. I can appreciate that.
You should take Rambo's experience and avoid me like the plague(-;
Love ya tons, Stem
I ain't nuttin'. don't get all worked up on account of me.
Yes, Yes, and Yes! I was asked a lot by the Bishop back then if I masturbated. I was also asked by the first counselor in the Stake Presidency and by the Stake President himself if I masturbated. A Young man had to have not masturbated for at least three months before the Stake President in my Stake would turn in the mission papers for that young man who wanted to go on a mission.
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"And I've said it before, you want to know what Joseph Smith looked like in Nauvoo, just look at Trump." - Fence Sitter
Ceeboo wrote:Among an enormous list of things that you might find some value in, I have found value in the fascinating perspective that you can get while taking a glimpse into the human minds/thoughts of people who once KNEW that the LDS Church was true and now KNOW that there is no God/Creator at all. (LDS to Atheist. A very sad and far to common scenario. IMHO)
Shoot, then you'd be greatly dismayed to know how many atheist were once Catholic. These 25 or so folks here who fit the bill you describe will look like nutting in comparison.
Love ya tons, Stem
I ain't nuttin'. don't get all worked up on account of me.
Ceeboo wrote:people who once KNEW that the LDS Church was true and now KNOW that there is no God/Creator at all.
I can't think of anyone who fits that description.
You are kidding, yes?
Ceeboo wrote:(LDS to Atheist. A very sad and far to common scenario. IMHO)
Not at all. It's cause for celebration!
As I have already offered, it is my opinion that this (LDS to Atheist) is the saddest legacy owned by Joseph Smith. (I understand that you disagree completely. Can we settle on agree to disagree?)
stemelbow wrote: Shoot, then you'd be greatly dismayed to know how many atheist were once Catholic. These 25 or so folks here who fit the bill you describe will look like nutting in comparison.
Not even going to try and explain this to you (Sorry)
Buffalo wrote:Did any of you get asked if you have sex with animals? I hear that used to be a standard question, especially for rural Utah/Idaho kids. I think it was before my time, though.
Twice...once at home in VA before my mission and the second time by my BP at BYU....I just laughed both times....what a perverted bunch of old goons...I was asked about masturbation several times...In fact "elder" kukuchi came to the MTC and gave one of the most troubling/embarrassing talks i have ever heard. He actually mentioned things that i had never even heard of as sins that i needed to repent of...He opened my eyes to a whole new spectrum of sin (similar to the way the LDS church forced me to explain homosexual marriage to my 4 and 6 year olds)....The LDS church is so focused on sex (...or denying sexual satisfaction) that I have to wonder if those old men who lead the church have ever even seen their wives nude...Bunch of sexually repressed prudes....
"your reasoning that children should be experimented upon to justify a political agenda..is tantamount to the Nazi justification for experimenting on human beings."-SUBgenius on gay parents "I've stated over and over again on this forum and fully accept that I'm a bigot..." - ldsfaqs
Ceeboo wrote:Not even going to try and explain this to you (Sorry)
Peace, Ceeboo
Ah man. Not again, ceeboo. I'm interested. I think you might be thinking that there are more former LDS turned atheist as a percent of the total than there are Catholic turned atheist. But considering the trendiness of atheism in Europe, I'm not sure you'd have something there. We might have to get the actual figures if they can be ascertained.
Love ya tons, Stem
I ain't nuttin'. don't get all worked up on account of me.
No, not kidding. Disbelief isn't the same as saying "I know there are no gods anywhere in the universe."
Ceeboo wrote: As I have already offered, it is my opinion that this (LDS to Atheist) is the saddest legacy owned by Joseph Smith. (I understand that you disagree completely. Can we settle on agree to disagree?)
The saddest legacy of St Linus is that so many children end up being baptized Catholic. (I understand that you disagree completely. Can we settle on agree to disagree?)
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
Buffalo wrote: The saddest legacy of St Linus is that so many children end up being baptized Catholic. (I understand that you disagree completely. Can we settle on agree to disagree?)
I know ceeboo is a nice guy and didn't even know he was being offensive. This statement kind of shows why ceeboo's last one was offensive.