No you arent....Your nose is not nearly far enough up the arse of the pseudo-lds-defenders to be following the stems lead....You are also not whining nearly enough to even consider yourself in same league and the sniveling stem. When you can whine and complain like the stem, then, maybe, you can claim to be following his lead. Your ability to logically and thoughtfully engage other posters on this website makes your above claim laughable...
"your reasoning that children should be experimented upon to justify a political agenda..is tantamount to the Nazi justification for experimenting on human beings."-SUBgenius on gay parents "I've stated over and over again on this forum and fully accept that I'm a bigot..." - ldsfaqs
quark wrote:The bishop just called Dear Wife this morning to set up a meeting with us.
Sigh...
It truly would be nice to talk to someone that only wants to listen but lo, this is not the Mormon way! Mormon priesthood leadership does not want to hear about our experiences or our feelings about God. They don't give a s*** about that. They want to fix us because our Lee-A-Hona's are broken.
To answer the questions above, yes the bishop cried - he really did. I was not lying. In fact, I could see the tears welling up in his eyes again as he related to us our personal information.
"You went on a mission speaking ____ language?" "Yes." "You were married in the ____ temple?" "Yes." etc...
Total strangers sharing intimate information and crying in front of each other is simply wrong.
Now we are getting into a meeting with this guy who wants to know why we left so soon after baptizing a child and after living a life of full membership and after paying gobs of money to the system. He wants to know why. OK, he really doesn't want to know. He wants to fix us. Right.
I guess it's finally time to face the system and be straight up.
"Dude, I know you really don't want to listen to my story. You really don't give a s*** that I have found peace and a way that works for me. You don't care that I have found meaning in my life and a way to raise my children and be the best I can. You don't care. You want me to be a person that validates your belief and pumps your ego. Let it go, man. Let us go."
Hi quark,
I think you should move, now! :)
Just kidding.
No matter what happens at this meeting, I hope you and your bride will unite, have each others back, and firmly stand in LOVE together, as your journey continues.
Peace, Ceeboo
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I would add that they will try to go after your wife first as a soft target. A primary calling or something that she will find hard to turn down.
Bingo!
Also, don't be surprised if a family in the ward all of a sudden invites you over for dinner or to the movies. What that means is they've been called to be friends with you. I'm not sure if you get set apart for that or if it's a more casual calling.
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"We have taken up arms in defense of our liberty, our property, our wives, and our children; we are determined to preserve them, or die." - Captain Moroni - 'Address to the Inhabitants of Canada' 1775
schreech wrote:No you aren't....Your nose is not nearly far enough up the arse of the pseudo-lds-defenders to be following the stems lead....You are also not whining nearly enough to even consider yourself in same league and the sniveling stem. When you can whine and complain like the stem, then, maybe, you can claim to be following his lead. Your ability to logically and thoughtfully engage other posters on this website makes your above claim laughable...
wah wah...Screech hates stem. What's new?
Love ya tons, Stem
I ain't nuttin'. don't get all worked up on account of me.
stemelbow wrote:No doubt, they will "go after your wife". Let it be known if a Mormon offers someone a calling they are going after that person. You guyss...
You are so naïve. In some ways that's refreshing, but mostly not.
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
DarkHelmet wrote:Also, don't be surprised if some members of the ward all of a sudden invite you over for dinner or to the movies. What that means is they've been called to be friends with you. I'm not sure if you get set apart for that or if it's a more casual calling.
Those nefarious Mormons.
Love ya tons, Stem
I ain't nuttin'. don't get all worked up on account of me.
stemelbow wrote:No doubt, they will "go after your wife". Let it be known if a Mormon offers someone a calling they are going after that person. You guyss...
Have you ever taken part in a Ward Council or similar meeting, Stem?
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
gramps wrote:Looks like the next step will be extending you both a calling, and forcing you to make a decision.
Hope it all goes well. Good luck!
At the end of a similar meeting I once had with a bishop, in which I explained that I really didn't believe in God any more, he asked if I would accept a position as the Deacon's quorum adviser. Man I was tempted to say yes, I was already thinking about what I would teach as my first lesson.
"Any over-ritualized religion since the dawn of time can make its priests say yes, we know, it is rotten, and hard luck, but just do as we say, keep at the ritual, stick it out, give us your money and you'll end up with the angels in heaven for evermore."
DarkHelmet wrote:Also, don't be surprised if some members of the ward all of a sudden invite you over for dinner or to the movies. What that means is they've been called to be friends with you. I'm not sure if you get set apart for that or if it's a more casual calling.
Those nefarious Mormons.
Not all of us appreciate having someone pretend to be our friends in order to manipulate us into doing something.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.