bcspace wrote:I don't see anything in the CHI that requires or otherwise encourages asking such questions which is why it's very unlikely to come up in an interview unless you forgot to shave your palms so to speak.
To quote Rafiki: "Look closer."
The 2010 Church Handbook of Instructions tells Bishops and Stake Presidents that their parishioners' private sexual habits are appropriate, even required, topics for interviews. The CHI tells them to make clear to youth in interviews that they are to refrain "from any kind of sexual activity." It does not tell Bishops simply to ask young people if they keep the law of chastity; it says refrain "from any kind of sexual activity." The CHI is an official church publication printed by the church and approved at the highest levels of church governance. And that's where Bishops and SPs get the idea that it's not only OK to inquire into "any kind of sexual activity" of their interviewees, but mandated by the prophets and apostles who, presumably, are getting their marching orders from Jeebus himself.
"The Church is authoritarian, tribal, provincial, and founded on a loosely biblical racist frontier sex cult."--Juggler Vain "The LDS church is the Amway of religions. Even with all the soap they sell, they still manage to come away smelling dirty."--Some Schmo
The 2010 Church Handbook of Instructions tells Bishops and Stake Presidents that their parishioners' private sexual habits are appropriate, even required, topics for interviews. The CHI tells them to make clear to youth in interviews that they are to refrain "from any kind of sexual activity." It does not tell Bishops simply to ask young people if they keep the law of chastity; it says refrain "from any kind of sexual activity." The CHI is an official church publication printed by the church and approved at the highest levels of church governance. And that's where Bishops and SPs get the idea that it's not only OK to inquire into "any kind of sexual activity" of their interviewees, but mandated by the prophets and apostles who, presumably, are getting their marching orders from Jeebus himself.
I'm sure you know all about mental and physical masturbation practices, bcspace. I'll bet you can do it just as well as I can. Maybe even faster! I trust you know all the moves.
The 2010 Church Handbook of Instructions tells Bishops and Stake Presidents that their parishioners' private sexual habits are appropriate, even required, topics for interviews. The CHI tells them to make clear to youth in interviews that they are to refrain "from any kind of sexual activity." It does not tell Bishops simply to ask young people if they keep the law of chastity; it says refrain "from any kind of sexual activity." The CHI is an official church publication printed by the church and approved at the highest levels of church governance. And that's where Bishops and SPs get the idea that it's not only OK to inquire into "any kind of sexual activity" of their interviewees, but mandated by the prophets and apostles who, presumably, are getting their marching orders from Jeebus himself.
Ah, but it's not stated explicitly.
Easier to manipulate the masses that way. State things in vague terms with a wink and a nod and you have plausible deniability, but maximum guilt-inducement ability. Hard to see how masturbation would NOT fall under the definition of "any kind of sexual activity" as bcspace implies.
"The Church is authoritarian, tribal, provincial, and founded on a loosely biblical racist frontier sex cult."--Juggler Vain "The LDS church is the Amway of religions. Even with all the soap they sell, they still manage to come away smelling dirty."--Some Schmo
Equality wrote:Easier to manipulate the masses that way. State things in vague terms with a wink and a nod and you have plausible deniability, but maximum guilt-inducement ability. Hard to see how masturbation would NOT fall under the definition of "any kind of sexual activity" as bcspace implies.
I know, but bcspace can rest easy knowing that masturbation isn't specifically mentioned in the CHI. The thing is, everyone knows this is within a bishop's responsibility, and most people I know have been asked about masturbation repeatedly. But there's always someone who vehemently insists that it's "rare."
I don't know why it's so important for some people to deny what regularly and consistently happens in the church. The level of denial is bizarre.
bcspace wrote: I don't see anything in the CHI that requires or otherwise encourages asking such questions which is why it's very unlikely to come up in an interview unless you forgot to shave your palms so to speak.
As has been noted some bishops ask and some don't. But it is not few as you would wish.
This is why you loose credibility. You think your experience is what it is for everyone.
bcspace wrote: I don't see anything in the CHI that requires or otherwise encourages asking such questions which is why it's very unlikely to come up in an interview unless you forgot to shave your palms so to speak.
As has been noted some bishops ask and some don't. But it is not few as you would wish.
This is why you loose credibility. You think your experience is what it is for everyone.
BCSpace, you don't suffer from some hand muscle disease such as Lou Gehrig's disease that would have precluded you from being asked is there? I recall being asked when I was younger.