From My Informant: The Perils of Socialcam

[_Analytics]

I received an intriguing PM earlier this afternoon....

Coincidently, one of my friends announced on Facebook that he watched the same video. Like Dan, I wanted to see if there was something funny or significant in it, so I watched the entire disgusting video. Twice.

[_Maxrep]

I guess now is a pretty good time for those attending DCP's student ward, to move forward with the confessional process. Maybe there is a good month or two of moral leniency to be had in light of "bootie-gate"?

[_Phaedrus Ut]

I'm going to make my broken record observation regarding this. First, it's not like this is actual porn it's probably from TMZ or the E channel. Second, it's a huge blunder to let apps post on your wall and I've seen a few humorous ones specifically with "Socialcam". Third, I think it's an inappropriate invasion of someones personal privacy to spread and post this kind of material. The schadenfreude might be nice and the laughs and giggles at someone's missteps are enjoyable but at what cost.

I think this is an inappropriate invasion of someone's privacy.


//steps off soapbox,


Phaedrus

[_Yoda]

Actually, Dan already spoke for himself on Facebook. He is no longer a member of this community by his own choice. I am sure that if he chose to speak for himself here, he could do so.

Dan ran away when he was backed into a corner and chose to flee... that's what happened.

This is not a case of my "backing Dan at any cost" because I do not do that. There are things that I have disagreed with Dan on, and not backed him on. The issue as far as how he treated Eric comes to mind.

You always back Dan... always. To claim that you don't could lead to he-said she-said arguments if I chose to look them up, but you always have Dan's back.

It is amazing to me that you are now choosing to pigeon hole me, and painting me with a certain brush simply because you have now chosen to attack me.

While you play the pity card and claim I'm "attacking" poor pitiful you, the only thing I'm "attacking" is your insincerity and presentation of a false witness regarding Mormonism as being Christian when it's not. For example:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=24099

I believe that the traditional Christian POV is that God created the human race. Their souls are simply a part of them, just like their bodies are. All men are fallible, and in need of being "born again", or accepting of Christ in order to be saved, or to live with God in the hereafter. There is not a pre-existance, in the way that LDS believe in it.

You so easily tell us what you don't believe in regarding the Mormon faith, but refuse to explain what is you do believe in? Why is that? You package your plastic testimony in a futile attempt to appease your agenda by selling Joseph Smith's doctrine as Christian, yet you don't believe in it... do you? Here... I'll bump this again:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=22681

I have as much right to comment on this thread as anyone else. And, frankly, I was speaking as someone who also has a Facebook account and is unfamiliar with some of the apps involved like Socialcam.

Comment all you wish... I have a right to counter. You have Dan's back, you have Joseph Smith's back claiming the little 16 year old girls "tempted" him, and you never explain what it is you do believe... know why? I do. You can call your minions now, but know this:

http://biblelight.net/false-prophets.htm

2 Pet 2:1 [NIV] But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2 Pet 2:2 [NIV] Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
2 Pet 2:3 [NIV] In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.

You are correct that a "he said, she said" search of posts would be a waste of time and futile. What I said stands. I have backed Dan, yes, but I have also disagreed with him. Have I backed him MORE than I disagreed with him? Yes. Is he a friend? Yes. I am not ashamed of that. I have backed many friends on the board.

As far as your first quote of mine, you are quoting me out of context. I was explaining what my perception of the traditional Christian view is in regards to the pre-existence. I am still learning about the differences between the beliefs in the EV, Catholic, Gnostic, and other various Christian sects, and find them fascinating.

I have answered your question regarding my conclusions:

viewtopic.php?p=595224#p595224

I consider this matter closed. I hope you do as well.

[_DarkHelmet]

I'm going to make my broken record observation regarding this. First, it's not like this is actual porn it's probably from TMZ or the E channel. Second, it's a huge blunder to let apps post on your wall and I've seen a few humorous ones specifically with "Socialcam". Third, I think it's an inappropriate invasion of someones personal privacy to spread and post this kind of material. The schadenfreude might be nice and the laughs and giggles at someone's missteps are enjoyable but at what cost.

I think this is an inappropriate invasion of someone's privacy.


//steps off soapbox,


Phaedrus

I think these apps that post your online activities to Facebook are an invasion of privacy, and we're probably having too much fun here at DCP's expense. But really, it's not that embarrassing. Now, if he gets called into a disciplinary hearing and they ask him how many times he masturbated to the video, then that would be an invasion of privacy.

[_Dr. Shades]

Personally, I see no real reason to doubt DCP's explanation for the reason he clicked the Facebook link. I mean, c'mon, if one is of the proclivity to watch risqué videos, there are far, far better ones out there than that.

[_Yoda]

Personally, I see no real reason to doubt DCP's explanation for the reason he clicked the Facebook link. I mean, c'mon, if one is of the proclivity to watch risqué videos, there are far, far better ones out there than that.

Agreed.

[_Chap]

I'm going to make my broken record observation regarding this. First, it's not like this is actual porn it's probably from TMZ or the E channel. Second, it's a huge blunder to let apps post on your wall and I've seen a few humorous ones specifically with "Socialcam". Third, I think it's an inappropriate invasion of someones personal privacy to spread and post this kind of material. The schadenfreude might be nice and the laughs and giggles at someone's missteps are enjoyable but at what cost.

I think this is an inappropriate invasion of someone's privacy.


//steps off soapbox,


Phaedrus

But ... but ...

I've just learned something new. "Socialcam,"of which I'd never before heard, announces on Facebook if you've watched something on it. I got a Facebook notice earlier today that a friend had watched something that seemed . . . er, questionable. Surprised that he would watch it, but REALLY surprised that he would (as I thought) choose to ANNOUNCE that he had watched it, I watched it, too, to see if there was something funny or significant in it that would lead him to want to announce it to all of his Facebook friends. (There wasn't.) And now I find that I'VE seemingly chosen to announce that I watched the same thing -- which, at least, helps me to understand what happened to my friend (but is, otherwise, slightly embarrassing and quite irritating). My apologies. I've got lots of shortcomings, but this kind of stuff isn't among them.

How can reposting this open announcement be an invasion of privacy?

[_Yoda]

How can reposting this open announcement be an invasion of privacy?

Posting his in real life photo without Dan's consent is against board rules. I had overlooked that, and have now corrected it.

Kish had suggested that both threads relating to this topic be deleted or removed.

I disagree. I don't see a problem with the discussions going forward. However, the photo has been removed. I think that is fair.

[_Home Teacher]

Personally, I see no real reason to doubt DCP's explanation for the reason he clicked the Facebook link. I mean, c'mon, if one is of the proclivity to watch risqué videos, there are far, far better ones out there than that.

But it does concern me that he was curious enough to click on the link. Whenever I see some wordly filth like that, I follow Brother Packer's counsel and close my eyes while humming a hymn. What good can come from watching a video like that? It saddens me that DCP was so easily tempted by Satan. If he is lured by a bump and grind video, what will he do when confronted with a link to girl on girl action, or bukkake, or casting couch? Just the other day, a pop-up ad for a toilet cam video appeared on my computer. I was so tempted to click on the link, but instead I turned off the computer and knelt in prayer to ask Heavenly Father for the strength to resist watching that filth. When I turned the computer back on, I had the strength to close the pop-up ad and go back to preparing my talk. We teach our children to avoid even the appearance of evil. I hope Daniel has begun the repentance process by meeting with his priesthood leaders. Only his priesthood leaders can judge the seriousness of his sin.