FBI Sexual Predator Profile on Joseph Smith?

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Tobin wrote:
Nightlion wrote:It was never intended that I become the sole survivor.
From my first spiritual breath the welfare of everyone else has never left me.
Either I really got no damn charisma or people just don't want no stinking prophet.
It has taken 180 years to finally shake off the last one. lol
You need to open your mind to more prophets than that Nightlion. Martin Luther King, Jr and Gandhi were both excellent prophets and had a lot of remarkable things to say that is worth study.


I celebrate both men with awe but neither was a prophet of the Most High God. I got principles and standards and these guys were clueless of all that. If I warrant them prophets I got nothing to say that means anything. Just because you get the catbird's seat and handle it well unto the well-being of millions who will forever be grateful and were certainly sent by God at the time and in the right place. Neither one could tell you how to come unto Christ with full purpose of heart that he might visit upon you the promise of the Father such that you are born of God by the power of the baptism of fire and of the Holy Ghost. Only that power CAN make one a prophet as I see prophet.
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Late is thy hour a bride with no groom
Trust science reasons to save your day
Off to the cliffs now and fly fly away
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But that don't make me no sociopath.


:biggrin: Like it, Night.


Twas all for you. If I had been paying better attention I should have started it out:
Bing oh bong......... yeaah, maybe not.
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Lucretia MacEvil wrote:
Nightlion wrote:
Joseph was loved and adored by everyone in his family. Such is not the stuff of crazy.
What kid is trusted as much as Joseph was? Hello!


I have no idea what you mean by this reply. I am simply totally sympathetic with a child who suffered traumatic pain and surgery. No doubt he was loved by his family. I don't understand the reference to Joseph being trusted as a kid more than any other kid. Explain? And what it has to do with the price of rice in China?


You do not think it odd that all of Joseph's family accepted him as a prophet? I think that is singularly the most important miracle of the Restoration. Trust begat trust and so the Church grew.

You wont get much support for the notion that a health event caused a mental disorder unless we're talking a frontal lobotomy.
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son of Ishmael wrote:
Nightlion wrote:
I did not expect a profile to understand Joseph but eliminate him from consideration. Of course.

As I see now see it Joseph was desperate about there not being a Zion. The people were not going to get it and he knew that Zion would have wait until we got to the other side of our modern age of Satan's lying wonders before the Lord gathers the scattered remnants when the Lord would bring forth his own Zion. What was needed was for the priesthood to continue up to that day in some fashion. Polygamy and the strong delusion (that's a big lie folks) of building your own Godhood Kingdom was called for to galvanized the Church to stand apart from the world long enough for faith to manifest near the transition stage. (today). I am that faith.

For Joseph told Brigham to precisely settle the saints in front of The Apocalrock for the Strange Act to play out in its time. I called forth the revelation of The Apocalrock in my desire to call forth Zion. It is the first act.

If you don't like it you can lump it. I have not finished calling forth Zion from its hiding place.
The third witness that the LDS Church is fallen in the dust of apostasy is the test of The Book of Abraham which is killing off the lingering faith of the LDS like a fungicide. Good riddance. Let them repudiate Zion all the more and go forward in faith to their reward. NOT!

So yeah. Everything that the Lord was doing the last couple of years of Joseph's life was setting up the lies, the strong delusion because the people did not love the truth, (ZIon) and had pleasure in unrighteousness, (the world).

For how can the Lord SEND them anything without a sender, Joseph the Prophet.
2 Thessalonians 2:9-12
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.


The world still thinks that this scripture is yet to be fulfilled. Fools and slow to believe.

Who got the truth right before the day of Christ was at hand? (now).....the Mormons.
What truth did they not love?.............Zion by the power of the real gospel.
What lie did they believe? .........that they were going to become Gods to their own dominions and that included polygamy, if not now anymore, well, eventually, eventually.
How did that lie damn them?......it kept them from getting the gospel of Zion because they were fixated beyond the mark but kept themselves apart from the world in their oddity.

Joseph was setting them up so that the gospel and the Church would not be absorbed back into the world and utterly lost after he was gone. And it would have if these strong measures had not been taken. It was never in Joseph's heart to live polygamy. He loathed the idea and was humiliated by it. I know his heart. But he had to finish his preparations to come off triumphant in the end. For the heirs of Zion will rise up and call Joseph blessed. The return of the City of Enoch will call Joseph blessed as will those who smite the earth and the rocks and ice flow down at their presence call Joseph blessed. For the faith to call forth Zion is found on earth because of what Joseph Smith did. Otherwise the earth is utterly wasted at the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ. Yeah, come Lord Jesus.

If I were not in your midst to aid and counsel you, the devil would overcome you.
Joseph Smith
May 126, 1842 (DHC 5:19-21)



WTF?


Keepin' it real.
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Nightlion wrote:
Keepin' it real.


If we're keepin' it real, then please produce the plates. And while you're at it, find the lost revelation. Because right now, the only reality you're keeping is your own.
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
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harmony wrote:
Nightlion wrote:
Keepin' it real.


If we're keepin' it real, then please produce the plates. And while you're at it, find the lost revelation. Because right now, the only reality you're keeping is your own.


Are you asking me to do these things or merely scolding me?

Here's a story interesting enough to ME anyways:

There is a friend at my work who knows about The Apocalrock. He has seen the video City Weekly did last year and he is "Mr Tattoo", who is trying to get back into his Strong Man Competition shape before the end of Summer. So we are lugging forty pounders all day sorting trays of mail into some eighty different hold outs. They are coming at us on a machine fed by two or three other people. Supervisor comes over and tells me to go to a different operation and I go. I'm the only one over sixty years old and she's new.

Mr Tat is watching me leave thinking WHAT? He has seniority over me. But there are four people senior to him as well who should have gone first. Every time we pass he is giving me the business. All good workroom banter. Seems he was campaigning for any of those with higher seniority to go and take my place, and yet, not of them would. AH! this infuriated him. or so I thought.

Come the end of the shift with everyone at the time clock. Mr T walks by and calls me out by name loudly calling me a douche bag, and mocks me being a wiener afraid of the heavy lifting and poohey on me. That was shocking. I did not know what to say to that. I am not going to return that level of railing against me.

But that was not the end of it. Oh no! He comes back and the supervisor is up above us on a parcel sorting machine console platform directing our attention to some flats boxes that you see for collecting mail about 12X12X20 and these are purposely posed on top of sensor arms where they got no business being. Loudly again my good buddy says " Hey, James, what do you see in those boxes up there, do you have any visions for us in them?"

What a saint I am. Thinking probably only he and I know what the heck he is talking about I just make a joke about them falling on his head. "He just threatened me" he shrieks.
I ignore and go home. He could not say more if I would not feed into it.

A couple of days go by and I am waiting to see a crack in the ice. I make the first move and he starts up being friendly again. The Post Office has Zero Tolerance for harassment. I got him and a supervisor both mocking my religion openly, loudly and deliberately shaming me in front of everyone. And by the way nobody else was laughing at me or even pretending to notice because Mr T is infamous for his bellicose loud laughter and singing and jocularity, the charming fella that he is.

Finally I confront him on what the heck was he thinking. I said nobody else even knew what was up with that. He said no way, everyone has seen my video, the supervisor and these guys and those guys too. I was pleasantly surprised as I only was aware of a couple of people that I told. And I have only mentioned details of The Apocalrock to less than ten or twelve people at work. It took a couple of years before a good friend admitted seeing what I pointed out. Oh man.

My bawdy friend changes the subject about him growing up and being bullied by a couple of Mormons whom he scares the crap out of when he sees them now that he is his great big grown up self. Jokingly, I suggest that he and me, in the park, while holding up my balled up fists.

He starts bawling, almost, asking me to pray for his wife. Huh? Seems he was actually grieved that after my hearing about her I did not offer to pray for her. This is the girl he has been in love with since he was ten. His soul mate whom he wants to grow old with and she has serious health problems. So, see, I am a douche bag. I confirm with him that he needs to formally ask me to do that. ARE YOU ASKING ME? Yes, yes, please help my wife and pray for her. I always thought this guy had some faith. This was a wonderful turn of events. This is like the first bit of respect ever turned my way. Other than my wife asking me to bless here and the kids there has been nothing like this yet. Neet!

Well, still teasing him, I say that I believe in doing good to those who persecute me and say all manner of evil against me, affirm myself a Christian that further that I will do good to those who hate me and revile me.......lol. So he asked me a couple of more time to pray for his wife and, man, I was taken aback. He reminded me a couple of hours later and I told him that I had already begun praying for her as I pray continually. It has been my forty year habit to think upon the Lord continuously, all the day, and what ever I think of is as a prayer. And I know that the Lord heard me in this matter while I was still there at work. (You can tell)

I am not a AAA rated prophet who would know already the outcome. My friend was off the next day and I have been off the next two. Got my toes and fingers crossed for a miraculous ending to this story, not that I need the validation, mind you. But it would be cool. For her sake, right? And to help my friend, not for me......?........still a DB!

So, I'm wonderin' if you or anyone else is asking me for what you scold me about here publicly, hmm, harms, hmm?
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Nightlion wrote:Every time we pass he is giving me the business.


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Eric wrote:
Nightlion wrote:Every time we pass he is giving me the business.


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I thought I was self deprecating enough on my own. Well, okay....lol
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Nightlion wrote:
Lucretia MacEvil wrote:I have no idea what you mean by this reply. I am simply totally sympathetic with a child who suffered traumatic pain and surgery. No doubt he was loved by his family. I don't understand the reference to Joseph being trusted as a kid more than any other kid. Explain? And what it has to do with the price of rice in China?


You do not think it odd that all of Joseph's family accepted him as a prophet? I think that is singularly the most important miracle of the Restoration. Trust begat trust and so the Church grew.

You wont get much support for the notion that a health event caused a mental disorder unless we're talking a frontal lobotomy.


Sure, it's odd that his family accepted him as a prophet. How is that supposed to make him more credible? Kind of makes them less credible, seems to me. As far as that terrible surgery having an effect on a child's mind or not, IMHO it couldn't help but have an effect, and there are echoes of it all through the Book of Mormon. I'm not looking for support here, though. You are. I don't flatter myself that my views are important to anyone's salvation. You do.
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Nightlion wrote:
You do not think it odd that all of Joseph's family accepted him as a prophet? I think that is singularly the most important miracle of the Restoration. Trust begat trust and so the Church grew.




Or the family was just as delusional as he was…
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