lulu wrote:Is DCP speaking evil to the Lord's annointed. What happend to the "obey" part of pray, pay, obey?
He's too worried about getting paid.
Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded.-charity 3/7/07
MASH quotes I peeked in the back [of the Bible] Frank, the Devil did it. I avoid church religiously. This isn't one of my sermons, I expect you to listen.
lulu wrote:Is DCP speaking evil to the Lord's annointed. What happend to the "obey" part of pray, pay, obey?
He's too worried about getting paid.
It's really remarkable how much of the (alleged) email is devoted to talk of money, donors, and revenue streams. Will we hear jokes about "gold faucets" and so forth in Kerry Shirts's film of the next FAIR conference, I wonder? (Provided that they allow him to come, of course.) The extend to which we have been deceived is astonishing.
"[I]f, while hoping that everybody else will be honest and so forth, I can personally prosper through unethical and immoral acts without being detected and without risk, why should I not?." --Daniel Peterson, 6/4/14
Doctor Scratch wrote:It's really remarkable how much of the (alleged) email is devoted to talk of money, donors, and revenue streams. Will we hear jokes about "gold faucets" and so forth in Kerry Shirts's film of the next FAIR conference, I wonder? (Provided that they allow him to come, of course.) The extend to which we have been deceived is astonishing.
Screwing with church finances, isn't that the sort of thing people get ex'ed for?
"And the human knew the source of life, the woman of him, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, 'I have procreated a man with Yahweh.'" Gen. 4:1, interior quote translated by D. Bokovoy.
Tim wrote:I'm predicting the excommunication of Dehlin eventually shakes out of this.
They can't do that, who is DCP goin to turn to once he starts to struggle with his testimony and wants to change the church from the inside out? He will be forced into reorganizing the NOM's. It is so much easier if Dehlin just kept it organized.
Of course when DCP takes over, the NOM's will have to become more militaristic and judgmental.
Ultimately, the calculus is this: Who is healthier for Mormonism? Dehlin, or DCP? In this election year, Dehlin is calling for conferences, greater understanding, and better answers. Dan Peterson, on the other hand, is finagling behind the scenes with Greg Smith to publish a "hit piece" that's meant to portray John Dehlin as a wolf in sheep's clothing.
What does that tell you?
"[I]f, while hoping that everybody else will be honest and so forth, I can personally prosper through unethical and immoral acts without being detected and without risk, why should I not?." --Daniel Peterson, 6/4/14
Doctor Scratch wrote:Ultimately, the calculus is this: Who is healthier for Mormonism? Dehlin, or DCP? In this election year, Dehlin is calling for conferences, greater understanding, and better answers. Dan Peterson, on the other hand, is finagling behind the scenes with Greg Smith to publish a "hit piece" that's meant to portray John Dehlin as a wolf in sheep's clothing.
What does that tell you?
Oh yes. And with Monson at the top there is a call for kinder and gentler Mormon voices. Even Packer is forced to toe the line. The election year will cost many jobs. DCP, pack your bags. You're out.
Doctor Scratch wrote:It's really remarkable how much of the (alleged) email is devoted to talk of money, donors, and revenue streams. Will we hear jokes about "gold faucets" and so forth in Kerry Shirts's film of the next FAIR conference, I wonder? (Provided that they allow him to come, of course.) The extend to which we have been deceived is astonishing.
I'm wondering how much one issue of the Review nets the Editor. 500$? 1,000$? 2,500$? 5,000$?
Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded.-charity 3/7/07
MASH quotes I peeked in the back [of the Bible] Frank, the Devil did it. I avoid church religiously. This isn't one of my sermons, I expect you to listen.
Doctor Scratch wrote:Ultimately, the calculus is this: Who is healthier for Mormonism? Dehlin, or DCP? In this election year, Dehlin is calling for conferences, greater understanding, and better answers. Dan Peterson, on the other hand, is finagling behind the scenes with Greg Smith to publish a "hit piece" that's meant to portray John Dehlin as a wolf in sheep's clothing.
What does that tell you?
*Hammer hits nail head.
There is far to much at stake here, especially during this white horse run for the presidency, to publicly crucify John Dehlin.
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The basic story has been posted to exmormon.org (although they won't link here for *insert exmormon.org board owner's reason*) so that might account for our increase in traffic which is at a record high today.
Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded.-charity 3/7/07
MASH quotes I peeked in the back [of the Bible] Frank, the Devil did it. I avoid church religiously. This isn't one of my sermons, I expect you to listen.