Late Anger

[_huckelberry]

If I were you I would be disgusted with all the children priests and nuns abused throughout the years. The catholic church in Ireland is in crisis because of the children that were abused. Now that is disgusting and nothing to be amused about.

Why me, i am not aware of anybody not disgusted by priests abusing children. I am puzzled as to your point however. Your comment did suggest a theory to me for better or worse. I could not help but wonder if your odd obsession with defending Mormons and accusing antimormons is a way of projecting your anger towards Catholicism which you may have difficulty expressing otherwise. That is just a maybe.

I find myself thinking that people of all sorts need to demand more limits on power for their religious leaders and more accountability from them. Religious leaders should not be a class set apart but part of the human race that helps with others like the rest of the humans.

[_madeleine]

I think also (from my own experience) we create monsters-under-the-bed. Fearing leaving or what other might think because we imagine the worst reaction possible. Sometimes what we imagine matches up to reality, other times it doesn't.

Think of the fears former children have now after being abused by priests and nuns. And the nightmares that they have.

I couldn't give a hoot what might think if I left the LDS church. I don't fear or give a hoot now. Who cares what others may think? However, once a child is abused as happened in the catholic church, the fear, guilt lasts a lifetime. I would focus my energies on that and leave the LDS alone.

What an astounding leap you've made from imagined fears to real horrors. I couldn't even begin to guess what your point is.

[_madeleine]

My experience is, the attitude and feelings toward Mormonism go in waves. The anger comes around now and then, but then will subside and be replaced with something else. Sometimes disgust, bemusement, apathy, sentimentality, etc.

What are you disgusted about?

If I were you I would be disgusted with all the children priests and nuns abused throughout the years. The catholic church in Ireland is in crisis because of the children that were abused. Now that is disgusting and nothing to be amused about.

I think I'll let you, gdmetz, Franktalk and Jo hammer out which anti-Catholic/Christian tactic works best "for the defense of Mormonism". I have no interest in joining you.

[_why me]

Why me, I could not help but wonder if your odd obsession with defending Mormons and accusing antimormons is a way of projecting your anger towards Catholicism which you may have difficulty expressing otherwise. That is just a maybe.

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Actually, my feelings are directed at the catholics on this board who are also posting on CAF critical comments about the LDS church and yet, ignoring the problems within the catholic church. I find it to be hypocritical to condemn Mormonism and yet, overlook the abuse of children within their own faith. And the abuses that have occurred in catholic history.

My relationship with the catholic church is fine and I do volunteer work with the missionaries of charity. But the catholics that I know are tolerant of other belief systems.

[_why me]

What an astounding leap you've made from imagined fears to real horrors. I couldn't even begin to guess what your point is.

Exactly. Don't let your imagination get away from you. Concentrate on the problems within your own faith and the real horrors that the catholic church is facing all over the world. Look more closer to home.

[_why me]

I think I'll let you, gdmetz, Franktalk and Jo hammer out which anti-Catholic/Christian tactic works best "for the defense of Mormonism". I have no interest in joining you.

But you have an interest in being critical of the LDS church. It is not anticatholic to tell catholics to look closer to home before making negative comments about someone else's faith. What is good for the goose is good for the gander too.

[_madeleine]

Why me, you should stop imagining that you know anything about me, what I do or don't do, and quite frankly, it is none of your dammed business.

Catholicism is your diversion from Mormon topics. Fine. But as I said I have no interest.

You're now on my ignore list.

Have a good life.

[_Tchild]

Maybe you don't pay attention, but the Church has MANY humanitarian projects going, most manned by Older Missionary's. Contrary to popular belief, the Church is still a small religion in comparison. It's doing what it can step by step.

The LDS church is doing something, whether it can do more is open to debate. Let's do the numbers really quick shall we.

The church admitted $600 million in humanitarian aid over a ten year period ($60 million annually) a few years back. Annual tithing and business venture receipts were estimated in the 3-4 billion per year range. So, how about we contrast the $600 million over ten years in aid, to the 30-40 billion received in revenues from various sources over the same time period?

What is the percentage you come up with ldsfaqs? I get about 1.5%-2.0% when factored as a percentage. Large U.S. corporations are just as charitable as the LDS church, and the church is at the bottom of the rung compared to Pfizer (21%), bristol-Myers (11%) or merck (9%). http://www.forbes.com/2005/11/11/charities-corporations-giving-cx_lm_1114charity.html

so maybe you pay attention more to the PR spin and not to the substance of the facts, ehh ldsfaqs?

[_Franktalk]

The church admitted $600 million in humanitarian aid over a ten year period ($60 million annually) a few years back. Annual tithing and business venture receipts were estimated in the 3-4 billion per year range. So, how about we contrast the $600 million over ten years in aid, to the 30-40 billion received in revenues from various sources over the same time period?

Maybe they have a big rainy day fund. Or maybe a tribulation fund. If so the 30 - 40 billion would not be enough.

[_Ceeboo]

Hey C-Bear

Pretty interesting OP, in my opinion.

As an anonymous never-Mo posting on a mere message baord, I would certainly not suggest (nor would I be comfortable in offering my wild guesses about) what or where your personal "late anger" is rooted in. I would imagine that there are literally thousands of possible answers for thousands of unique and very diferent life circumstances.

What I will offer you, for what it's worth, is that what is behind the mask of anger (late or otherwise) is almost always, with very few exceptions, pain and hurt.

in my opinion, your OP topic (Anger) is a fascinating subject, it is worthy of deep discussion, it has many layers, and it is surely one topic that we human beings can be compassionate about and relate to. (no matter what each of us happen to believe now, used to believe then, or might believe in the future)

Could be a really cool and interesting thread. (?)

Just my take.

Peace,
Ceeboo