Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

[_3sheets2thewind]

I just love this thread. As a recall, WS dared anyone to find anything offensive he has posted, this was made after what must be his 3 times returning - Jesus did say something about a dog and its vomit.

I wonder if the Stake President of the North Cedar Stake or the other Stake Presidents in Cedar would be interested in the comments from WS especially the lovely diddy about Emma Smith and his comments about women in general.

I find the "out of context" claim simply laughable. And that certain people, I will not name names, have to the defense of WS is really no surprise at all, as those same people use the same offensive manner of posting as WS, and as the saying goes birds of a feather....

[_Eric]

Jesus did say something about a dog and its vomit.

Did Jesus say that? I thought it was Solomon...

[_Tator]

Jesus did say something about a dog and its vomit.

Did Jesus say that? I thought it was Solomon...

Proverbs 26:11 As a dog returns to its vomit, so a fool repeats his folly.

[_Trevor]

I said that anyone who would not have some empathy for what harmony has been subjected to is a cad, and I stand by that completely.

Wow.

Well, Eric is right. His position has nothing to do with a habit of mistreating women, and everything to do with his dislike of harmony in particular. LOL.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Hello,

I'm sitting here with a grin on my face and a bounce in my fingers as they crank out word after aggressive word on my clickety-click keyboard.

Back on point. Mr. Schryver brings a woman's mother into his crusade, coupled with the desire for a curse:

If she’s half the noble soul you make her out to be, then what she really doesn’t deserve is to be so thoroughly shamed by a daughter like you. You have become an enemy of righteousness. You can no longer discern right from wrong, purity from filth, inspiration from deception. You manifest none of the best qualities of womanhood and discipleship. With no compunction whatsoever, you speak evil of the Lord’s anointed, and you actively seek to destroy the faith of the humble believers in Christ who seek joy and find meaning in the restoration of the gospel.

You have fully qualified yourself for the just cursings of the Lord

Well, daughter of Eve, there are many of your mothers who are shamed by you.

...

My calling you to repentance is a mere formality, of course. I'm quite convinced that you are all but beyond redemption at this juncture of your apostasy. Nevertheless, the formality now dispensed with, nothing but the fulfillment of the curse remains.

Have I mentioned lately that you are one of the ugliest people I have ever encountered in cyberspace? And, as difficult as it is to believe, you're getting worse with each passing month. Your poor mother must look down on what you've become with an all-consuming shame.

More insults using a feminine angle:

Coming from a "crack whore trainee," that really hurts.

Once again bringing his wife (or wench as he puts it) into a sexually tinged post:

Not as glad as my wife was. She's not into the "squeaky clean" feel by any means, but I'd probably taken things a bit far. :wink:

Does Mr. Schryver have the ability to maintain civil discourse? Sure. He's done it before. The question isn't if, but when he'll resort to misogyny when addressing a perceived female non-submissive.

V/R
Dr. Cam

[_Tator]

I fail to see how context helps Will with anything here. Will's posts are the rantings of a vulgar person. Will has chose and is proud of the use of the following words:

whore
bitch (many variations)
shrew
liar
wench
wenchlette
bastard
buggerers
piss
orgiastic circle jerk (and many other variations and descriptions of this practice)
f****king douche
harlot
asshole
pussy-ass

and plus many other words and tons of descriptions and also the word,

slut and slutish

All of these words have been directed at individuals, but the only word that Will is not proud of and disputes is the C-word.

Really what is the real difference between any of these words directed at an individual any less vulgar than the C-word. What is the difference between the C-word and sl-word?? It is all vulgar and unnecessary.

The point is that Will should be too vulgar for the MI, FAIR, FARMS, publishers, apologists, etc. but I guess he not. Now just what does that say about them? (with the except of Plate and David), I'll leave it for you to decide.

I don't need the C-word on the list to make my decision.

[_jon]

IWill has chose and is proud of the use of the following words:

whore
bitch (many variations)
shrew
liar
wench
wenchlette
bastard
buggerers
piss
orgiastic circle jerk (and many other variations and descriptions of this practice)
f****king douche
harlot
asshole
pussy-ass

and plus many other words and tons of descriptions and also the word,

slut and slutish

Would the use of those words preclude someone from being worthy of holding a valid Temple Recommend and perhaps necessitate a confessional meeting with a Bishop?

[_Tator]

IWill has chose and is proud of the use of the following words:

whore
bitch (many variations)
shrew
liar
wench
wenchlette
bastard
buggerers
piss
orgiastic circle jerk (and many other variations and descriptions of this practice)
f****king douche
harlot
asshole
pussy-ass

and plus many other words and tons of descriptions and also the word,

slut and slutish

Would the use of those words preclude someone from being worthy of holding a valid Temple Recommend and perhaps necessitate a confessional meeting with a Bishop?

From my experience with TRs in the past and if person was being honest to themselves and the TR and the church beliefs..etc., I have to say, YES.

[_Will Schryver]

f****king douche

I have never said any such thing.

I have never used the "F" word in any circumstance during my entire message board career.

You, sir, are a liar, just like harmony and her suborned witnesses.

... plus many other words and tons of descriptions ...

I do confess I have used "many other words" and "tons of descriptions."

LOL!

Really what is the real difference between any of these words directed at an individual any less vulgar than the C-word. What is the difference between the C-word and sl-word??

As several people have noted, there is a huge difference; one that is widely recognized by civilized people.

The point is that Will should be too vulgar for the MI, FAIR, FARMS, publishers, apologists, etc. ...

This, of course, is what really underlies the whole GSTP propaganda campaign. There is an almost instinctive reflex to silence Will Schryver! Why? Here's the answer of one prominent LDS apologist:

"They're afraid you might be right. Terrified, in fact."

[_Tator]

f****king douche

I have never said any such thing.

I have never used the "F" word in any circumstance during my entire message board career.

You, sir, are a liar, just like harmony and her suborned witnesses.

... plus many other words and tons of descriptions ...

I do confess I have used "many other words" and "tons of descriptions."

LOL!

Really what is the real difference between any of these words directed at an individual any less vulgar than the C-word. What is the difference between the C-word and sl-word??

As several people have noted, there is a huge difference; one that is widely recognized by civilized people.

The point is that Will should be too vulgar for the MI, FAIR, FARMS, publishers, apologists, etc. ...

This, of course, is what really underlies the whole GSTP propaganda campaign. There is an almost instinctive reflex to silence Will Schryver! Why? Here's the answer of one prominent LDS apologist:

"They're afraid you might be right. Terrified, in fact."

I am proud to be referenced with Harmony.