Mickelson Case: GA coverup cont.,

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_Mary
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Re: Mickelson Case: GA coverup cont.,

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Lemmie, apologies. RI is correct. Given that K is close to her father I have no reason to doubt that K wants this all out there and I take Ron at his word in this matter.

She, too appears to have experienced the same shunning tactics as Ron, so it's her fight as much as his.
If I were her parent in the same situation then I would be doing this so that any anger for revealing these documents can be put on me, not my daughter.

I think Ron will happily take any flack for releasing the documents and will want people to aim their invective at him rather than K.
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Rosebud, if you are reading this... I have just spent nearly 3 hours editing my comments and I seriously need a hug.
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RI, up thread is the accusation that Ron bruised J but that was challenged by the daughter who remembers her mum bruising herself when she fell of/was using the exercise bike.
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Mary.

Literally all your information is filtered through Ron Karren. All of it.

C'mon, sister. Snap out of it.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Mary.

Literally all your information is filtered through Ron Karren. All of it.



That seems to be the case.
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That seems to be the case.


Other than his own analysis, are you suggesting that the documents Ron has released have been fabricated by him?
RI suggested that the divorce may have been precipitated over Ron being violent with his wife. I was answering that allegation specifically where Ron states the following....

K... spoke up and said, “She did that on the exercise cycle, last year.  I saw it bathing with her and she told me about it.”


Are you really suggesting that this is a lie given that his daughter is aware of and is reading his releases. Are you stating that this man has utterly no credibility whatsoever in anything because he has released these documents and you disapprove?
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Mary wrote:
That seems to be the case.


Other than his own analysis, are you suggesting that the documents Ron has released have been fabricated by him?
RI suggested that the divorce may have been precipitated over Ron being violent with his wife. I was answering that allegation specifically where Ron states the following....

K... spoke up and said, “She did that on the exercise cycle, last year.  I saw it bathing with her and she told me about it.”


Are you really suggesting that this is a lie given that his daughter is aware of and is reading his releases. Are you stating that this man has utterly no credibility whatsoever in anything because he has released these documents and you disapprove?


Is it possible for you to respond to a simple comment without going off on a tangent and accusing me that I'm suggesting that something is a lie or what have you, when I've done no such thing?

Read my posts for what they say, not what you imagine them to say.

Here it is again. I said that it seems to be the case that your information is filtered through RK.

That has nothing to do with the nature or quality of the information. It has to do with the process by which you are transmitting it and relaying it here.

I am not in the habit of suggesting things. I'm typically very direct in my communication.

Furthermore, why is it that you claimed you were "too tired" to answer a simple question posed to you on this thread : viewtopic.php?p=960841#p960841

But you had no problem investing your energies in composing the above reply?

Why do you keep asking folks here what their level of expertise is regarding child abuse cases, how would you measure their level of expertise and what possible difference does it make if their ideas, arguments, and comments make sense?

Honestly, Mary, all of these things are dodging on your part.
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Jersey Girl, I am going to put you on ignore if you continue to do this. It's tiring. And you are derailing. You don't like my posts put me on ignore.
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Mary wrote:Jersey Girl, I am going to put you on ignore if you continue to do this. It's tiring. And you are derailing. You don't like my posts put me on ignore.

I don't think it's derailing. I read Res Ipsa's and Jersey Girl's comments as suggesting that there are other options besides reporting Ron's statements as though every element was already a proven fact. Consequently, I was quite surprised when you jumped right to accusations that people think Ron is fabricating stuff.

There is a middle ground between complete blind faith and stating every word is a lie, and that is the ground occupied by thoughtful assessment of all statements, determining what has been proven fact and what statements need verification before arising to the level of fact.

There is no downside to asking for that type of post when people are giving information about an ongoing event.
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Lemmie, let me state again, I am responding to RIs suggestion that the divorce was precipitated by Ron hitting J.
I defended Ron by showing where his daughter suggested that the bruise was from the exercise bike.



Right now, I don't want to get into an extended conversation with Jersey Girl and I am pretty sure she doesn't want to get into an extended conversation with me.
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