Rules of Patheos: Midgley appears to violate TOS 10x

[_Lemmie]

DanielPeterson Mod Dr. VelhoBurrinho • a day ago

I've seen at least some of the mean-spirited comments about the folks here that you've posted over at the Malevolent Stalker Board, VB.

The injured-but-innocent ingenue pretense doesn't suit you.

Im not sure about this. I haven’t said anything flat out mean. My criticisms of them have been based on the positions and ideas they have presented. Which is not the way they have conducted themselves towards me.

But actually I think Dan has figured it out a little bit. Too bad he let Midgley expose himself that much.

Exactly. The “ injured-but-innocent ingenue pretense“ is definitely something only Midgley has attempted. When DCP turns it on others, it is beyond obvious that he is covering for his crazy friend. At some point, though, how does one spin crap like this?

"Fancy drinking dirty water out of a trough that a donkey’s been at!"

When I read that remark , was immediately reminded of a certain "Little Old Donkey"--that is, Dr. LOD...

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4832916775

[_Lemmie]

Louis Midgley DanielPeterson a month ago

I promise not to post a single thing for two full weeks. So I will not even be tempted to use another common name for a donkey.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4788207656

It was a brief reprise. On the other hand, without any temptation involved at all, I am more than happy to most accurately define Louis Midgley as an ASS.

[_Lemmie]

Louis Midgley Jack 33 minutes ago

...Yes, unless, and I like to also add until. See my comment above. Dan, Bill Hamblin and I had lunch in Provo with a Southern Baptist preacher in which we asked this couple how they could square the mercy and justice of God with the fact that billions of Chinese had never had the opportunity to know that there was a gospel of Jesus Christ and their own strongly Calvinist version of contemporary Protestant theology would in their own understanding would burn in hell.

And the wife of this Protestant preacher said that God obvioulsy hated all those Chinese...

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4835433081

I sincerely doubt she said that. There’s no point in reading on as Midgley’s propensity to exaggerate (which can also easily be defined as a propensity to outright lie) just makes this hateful story a little too obviously fake.

What is quite real however, is Midgley’s contempt for others.

[Guest]

Lou Midgley is a little crap. He's always been a little crap. And he'll be a little crap til the day he passes. Getting in fights and bragging about it. Lying about his military service. Lying about who said what in New Zealand. You know how some people say surgeons are just sociopaths that found an outlet for their Dexterish tendencies? Lou Midgley is a pugnacious little crap that found cover in BYU for his little crap antics. It is what it is, and his big, dumb, goofy mediocre friend covers for him. Whattayagonnado?



- Doc

[_Dr LOD]

The interesting is the DCP said a few times that Midgley was feeling hurt from being accused of "latent hostility towards the Maori." Yet Midgley exhibited no such sadness or recognition that maybe there is something wrong with his relationship or thinking concerning Maori people. Instead he exhibited is usual very un-saintly behavior that he is famous for. So Is he really hurt? He isn't acting like it.

What I think is happening is that he is going through a ton of cognitive dissonance about his relationship with the Maori and of his religious beliefs surrounding it. He doesn't have much more time to figure it out for himself and come to some type of ethical and moral resolution to this inner conflict that was set off due to our debate.

I feel sorry for him but really don't take blame. I didn't teach him the Lamanite narrative, or come up with the complicated mental gymnastics of apologetics to try to explain it. I responded to him identifying me and my family as Lamanites, when there is first no accepted scientific evidence they exist, as well as a constantly changing morphing church doctrine and explanations of who or where they are. If he is going to tell me who I am he better be able to defend his position, which he failed to do. And not hide behind religious beliefs, or the threat to turn me into some authority.

[_Lemmie]

You've rightly called him out, Dr. LOD.

Does he like the Maori and does he like Native American's? sure. In his mind they're a humble and lowly people ripe for indoctrination with his Mormon superstitions. When they listen to him, a type-A white guy who runs his mouth constantly and thinks everyone should listen to him and treat him like a god, they're fantastic people. But how dare they earn advanced degrees and talk back to him! Know your place! You can feel his contempt for your degree and Dr. Colvin's.

It's sad that they banned you, Dr. LOD. You've mentioned in passing some of the things you're dealing with on the front lines in the war against the virus. I think we should all thank our medical professional for their service. Indeed, wouldn't it be nice to be a member of an organization that warns us about dangers? The medical community that you belong to has done so, whereas the prophets and apostles of SeN have done absolutely nothing but hoard money.

Your thanks for directly helping with coronavirus is to be banned from their ranks, just as things get ramping up.

Men like him only like Lamanites as long as they keep their place. As soon as they have the ability to challenge them it makes them very uncomfortable. This was apparent in ways he was addressing me.

I'm sure he loves the Maori, as long as they support his beliefs, and they continue to be a faith promoting mascot. With the Maori he has been able to match some parallels between Maori folklore with that of LDS folklore....

I think you have defined it exactly, Dr LOD. ”Keeping their place” especially seems to define his disdain for Gina Colvin. A number of times he has defined her life before she left the LDS church with approval, when she was apparently “keeping her place” as a Maori-born Latter-day Saint. Using his exact words, he said she was a “naïve primitive believer.”

Dear god. What is Midgley thinking, describing Maori people in his religion as “naïve” and “primitive”?

[_Dr LOD]

I think you have defined it exactly, Dr LOD. ”Keeping their place” especially seems to define his disdain for Gina Colvin. A number of times he has defined her life before she left the LDS church with approval, when she was apparently “keeping her place” as a Maori-born Latter-day Saint. Using his exact words, he said she was a “naïve primitive believer.”

Dear god. What is Midgley thinking, describing Maori people in his religion as “naïve” and “primitive”?

There are actually more problems with that verse from St. Midgley.

For instance, where Maori Saints love the Book of Mormon, Gina detests it.

She started out as a naïve primitive believer. But her work on a Ph.D. thesis in journalism led her to read recent French philosophy, and this colonized her in a radically hostile worldview that has exactly no place for Maori things or the faith of the Saints.

So first he is doing a swing and a miss at her book Decolonizing Mormonism: Approaching a Postcolonial Zion. By somehow tying it to French Philosophy. Then saying she is colonized because she writes about de-colonialism. Go figure.

Second who made him the judge of who or what is Maori? Pretty presumptive as well as racist for someone like him to be doing that.

Looking at his behavior if this could be something like an inverse corollary of Novak’s rule.

[_moksha]

And the wife of this Protestant preacher said that God obviously hated all those Chinese...

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4835433081
I sincerely doubt she said that.

Dr. Peterson vouched for him and said he remembered it at the time because the statement was so outrageous. Not sure if the preacher's wife was being flippant or not. Sounds like the statement was left unexplored. Sometimes it is better not to touch or laugh at such sentiment. It is like interacting with the participants at Sic et Non. Apparently they divorce their writings from their beliefs, much like the preacher's wife.

[_Philo Sofee]

Dear god. What is Midgley thinking, describing Maori people in his religion as “naïve” and “primitive”?

And it truly bothers him if ANY disagree with his stupid inaccurate description. That is what is so amazing. His myopia is utterly legendary. And he seethes with rage if any disagree and challenge his wishful thinking, ESPECIALLY if they are Maori. Those dammed Lamanites had better start respecting the Midgley Nephite white and delightsome priesthood or there are going to be blessings revoked! It's THAT serious!!!

[_Gadianton]

Looks like Smokes is connecting with the folks over at SeN. He is playing them (not hard to do), but definitely a voice of sincerity is coming through.

One of his posts on the "Responding to C.." thread is:

Did you know ANY criticism of Jewishness is censored on that message board?

Midgley upvotes this and then adds:

it is true that even or especially secular Jews would not tolerate the kind of abuse that is posted every day

People can be whatever they want to be online, and we really don't know what S's objectives are. At best his aim could be Belmontian hyperbole equating mocking the first vision(s) story to the holocaust. The apologists have many times equated 'anti-Mormonism' with 'anti-Semitism', not as hyperbole, but as a rational depiction of the world, with Bill Hamblin taking the lead on specifics. Aside from Hamblin, the apologists have been too chicken to get specific when comparing the plight of Mormons under persecution of online ex-Mormons who love their Mormon families to the plight of the Jews under Hitler. Assuming S is engaging in hyperbole, and not really advocating holocaust denial, then it will be interesting to see to what extent he can convince Mr. Midgley that such is equal to folks over here throwing rotten tomatoes at his foolish adventures in confronting critics.