Recovery from MAD

[_Who Knows]

I've not heard of this form of treatment (I.e recovery through obsessing about things that are allegedly "totally boring"). Is that some form of reverse or upside-down psychology?

And, can you please explain how it supposedly helps people to "move on"? I ask, because from what I can see, it does just the opposite.

Or, are you just subtly mocking people here who have taken this banal approach? ;-)

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

It helps, because all of these comments make the MAD board seem even less desirable.

Whereas I might have been tempted to check the board, I am less likely to do so now. Thus, this thread has helped me "move on".

So, by "moving on", you mean obsessing about MAD here rather than there? ;-)

If so, then I get what you mean by "moving" (I.e. moving the location of your obsessing from there to here), but I am not sure what you mean by "on"--unless it is in reference to being "on" this board rather than "on" MAD.

Whatever the case, in this instance that phrase apparently means something different to you than it does to me. What a surprise. ;-0.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Please point out to me where I have 'obsessed' about MAD.

[_Scottie]

I'm actually quite bewildered as to why I haven't been banned yet.

I've been chastised multiple times, but not banned.

I suppose I'm really not a big enough threat to warrant a banning. Runtu, Seth and The Dude are the heavy hitters.

[_Runtu]

I'm actually quite bewildered as to why I haven't been banned yet.

I've been chastised multiple times, but not banned.

I suppose I'm really not a big enough threat to warrant a banning. Runtu, Seth and The Dude are the heavy hitters.

Heavy hitter? Moi? ROFL. I'm just waiting to see how long I last. Now that Bond's gone, I think my days are numbered.

Honestly, if they can't handle someone as decent and gentle as you have been over there, they are doomed.

[_beastie]

We are just so blessed to have Wade among us to point the way to psychological health.

[_wenglund]

Please point out to me where I have 'obsessed' about MAD.

I don't know for certain that you have. It is just an impression that is not so much specific to you, but was more intended to speak light-heartedly in general about the good folks here (as witnessed to by the seemingly innumerable and lengthy threads here about MA&D). If you haven't been an active participant on those threads, then I stand corrected. Either way, it was just a joke. ;-)

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_Runtu]

Please point out to me where I have 'obsessed' about MAD.

I don't know for certain that you have. It is just an impression that is not so much specific to you, but was more intended to speak light-heartedly in general about the good folks here (as witnessed to by the seemingly innumerable and lengthy threads here about MA&D). If you haven't been an active participant on those threads, then I stand corrected. Either way, it was just a joke. ;-)

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

I dunno. MAD-watching can be fun spectator sport. Just guessing when the next Pahoran sighting will be can be immensely entertaining.

I guess I'd call it an obsession if there were some deeper motivations at work. Maybe there are for some folks.

[_Who Knows]

Please point out to me where I have 'obsessed' about MAD.

I don't know for certain that you have. It is just an impression that is not so much specific to you, but was more intended to speak light-heartedly in general about the good folks here (as witnessed to by the seemingly innumerable and lengthy threads here about MA&D). If you haven't been an active participant on those threads, then I stand corrected. Either way, it was just a joke. ;-)

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Fair enough.

[_Trevor]

And yet, here the real butt kicker...the Bible and the Book of Mormon will never be proven true. And when they are proven true, the second coming will be occuring.

No, the real butt kicker is that I don't give a tinker's damn whether they are true or not in the sense you talk about. Their 'truth' has little to do with the issue of antiquity. Your belief in the Book of Mormon's truth may require it to be ancient. But to a person like myself, who is primarily interested in the Book of Mormon as a historian, its claims to antiquity matter, not its claims to divine truth. The claim to antiquity can't begin to be made without prior conviction of its divine truth, as possessed by its learned apologists and LDS scholars.

The Bible can be verified archeology but the story of Christ and his miracles cannot be verified. A person needs faith to believe in Christ's divinity. I have seen no sworn testimonies of the events as described in the Bible by those who witnessed it. I do not include the gospels since the gospels were written long after the event.

Please don't confuse me with some evangelical who might give a crap about this. I do not believe in Christ's divinity, or that the Bible is the word of God. I believe both of these things to be ancient myths, while the Book of Mormon is a 19th century addendum to this ancient myth.

The Book of Mormon has not be verified conclusively by archeology. But it does have 11 witnesses to verify the plates.

Yes, 11 witnesses who had no expertise in American antiquities and who could not submit the plates to any meaningful kind of scientific testing. How long did it take to test the Kinderhook plates? Get my drift?

In both cases, faith is needed. And it will remain so...until Christ comes again. And yes, critics can both rip the Bible and the Book of Mormon but...it is like pissing into the wind. It feels good but...

Yes, for believers faith is needed. For scientists and historians, facts and tests are needed. I have no interest in 'ripping' the Bible and the Book of Mormon. I am interested in them as historical artifacts of their respective contexts. The Book of Mormon, to the non-believer, must remain a 19th century document until compelling evidence is provided that demonstrates something different.

[_Jersey Girl]

Trevor

Yes, 11 witnesses who had no expertise in American antiquities and who could not submit the plates to any meaningful kind of scientific testing. How long did it take to test the Kinderhook plates? Get my drift?

**applause**

[_Trevor]

**applause**

I wish I could take credit for inventing common sense and the scientific method, but thanks for applauding my attempts to apply them at any rate.