I'm Getting Bored...

[_keene]

And yes, I felt the picture of the Native American woman was inappropriate as were the precipitating and subsequent comments, but not only for the reason you assume. I work with Native women on a daily basis, and that picture would have offended them, as would have the context.

Just a note, I hardly think any well adjusted native american would be offended at something as silly as that picture. And even if they were, that mere offense is no where near enough reason to censor it. Hell, offending large groups of people is one of the primary points of having this board!

But anyway, I haven't really paid much attention to this thread, I just glanced over it enough to notice people getting pissy about silly things. Just thought I'd re-state my own policy on moderating the threads: If I don't get a PM, it doesn't exist. Even if I'm participating, I will assume it to be perfectly appropriate unless I get a PM.

Self policing doesn't simply mean what what you say, but it also means take the responsibility to report others as well. Everyone is responsible for their own experience here.

[_harmony]

Dear Brother Bedme...oops, I mean Bednar,

Have the good people of Jamaica rubbed off on you? Are you like a bunny now, dear Bedme? An energizer bunny who keeps going and going and going?

In need of a good battery,

Kimberly Ann

PS - Sorry, all! It's Bedme posting! I just love him and can't resist!

This is exactly the sort of thing I'm talking about. It adds nothing to the conversation and detracts from the thread. No, I"m not stuffy. I just see too much of this sort of thing, and too little self-restraint.

[_keene]

Dear Brother Bedme...oops, I mean Bednar,

Have the good people of Jamaica rubbed off on you? Are you like a bunny now, dear Bedme? An energizer bunny who keeps going and going and going?

In need of a good battery,

Kimberly Ann

PS - Sorry, all! It's Bedme posting! I just love him and can't resist!

This is exactly the sort of thing I'm talking about. It adds nothing to the conversation and detracts from the thread. No, I"m not stuffy. I just see too much of this sort of thing, and too little self-restraint.

That would be a perfect time to tell a Mod then. See, part of being a mod means not trying to define our standards. I basically tell every mod, and I've discussed with shades since day one, that a problem doesn't exist unless someone defines it. I personally feel that post was fine, and were I not reading this thread, I would have had no idea that /anyone/ would have felt differently.

I can't really know what values you or even the rest of the board want. I can't make any decent distinction of what's 'smut' and what isn't. We have the 3 forums so people can decide for themselves -- and those decisions are bound to overlap. Seeing as my own values are defined as "any more than 3 f-words belongs in terrestrial instead of celestial" -- well, you can see what I mean.

So, if there is a problem, it /has/ to be pm'ed to a mod. Otherwise, it's simply not a problem, it's just a case of overlapping values.

[_KimberlyAnn]

Dear Brother Bedme...oops, I mean Bednar,

Have the good people of Jamaica rubbed off on you? Are you like a bunny now, dear Bedme? An energizer bunny who keeps going and going and going?

In need of a good battery,

Kimberly Ann

PS - Sorry, all! It's Bedme posting! I just love him and can't resist!

This is exactly the sort of thing I'm talking about. It adds nothing to the conversation and detracts from the thread. No, I"m not stuffy. I just see too much of this sort of thing, and too little self-restraint.

Oh, I knew it would irritate you, Harmony.

I readily admit it adds nothing to the conversation and detracts from the thread, (though I certainly do not believe it inappropriate for a forum advertised as PG-13), but if it's true that Silentkid is bored, which was the main point of this thread, then why not indulge in a little joke or controversy to relieve him of his boredom?

This isn't, in my estimation, a serious scholarly thread. It's here because someone is bored with the board. Taking it too seriously is the worst thing that could happen, in my opinion!

KA

[_harmony]

I readily admit it adds nothing to the conversation and detracts from the thread, (though I certainly do not believe it inappropriate for a forum advertised as PG-13), but if it's true that Silentkid is bored, which was the main point of this thread, then why not indulge in a little joke or controversy to relieve him of his boredom?

This isn't, in my estimation, a serious scholarly thread. It's here because someone is bored with the board. Taking it too seriously is the worst thing that could happen, in my opinion!

KA

You made my point, KA: your post adds nothing to the conversation and detracts from the thread. Everything else is just excuses. Perhaps the quality of conversations here is not important to many of the MDB posters. That explains many of the derailed threads, no doubt. The thing is, it's these types of inane, joking, derailed conversations that Inconcievable (and others) are bored with. So you can write him off using whatever adjective suits you, but personally I kinda liked him and I'm sorry but I have to agree with him about the level of conversation here lately.

[_KimberlyAnn]

I readily admit it adds nothing to the conversation and detracts from the thread, (though I certainly do not believe it inappropriate for a forum advertised as PG-13), but if it's true that Silentkid is bored, which was the main point of this thread, then why not indulge in a little joke or controversy to relieve him of his boredom?

This isn't, in my estimation, a serious scholarly thread. It's here because someone is bored with the board. Taking it too seriously is the worst thing that could happen, in my opinion!

KA

You made my point, KA: your post adds nothing to the conversation and detracts from the thread. Everything else is just excuses. Perhaps the quality of conversations here is not important to many of the MDB posters. That explains many of the derailed threads, no doubt. The thing is, it's these types of inane, joking, derailed conversations that Inconcievable (and others) are bored with. So you can write him off using whatever adjective suits you, but personally I kinda liked him and I'm sorry but I have to agree with him about the level of conversation here lately.

Huh? I don't write off Inconceivable at all! Any adjectives I'd send his direction would be undoubtedly well received by him.

I, too, would like to see more scholarly threads, and you haven't seen, nor will you see, me derailing those. I just don't consider this thread particularly serious. It certainly didn't start out that way. The OP was making beer jokes on the first page! If someone else wants to take a thread that was treated lightheartedly by the OP and make it serious, that's their prerogative, I suppose, just as it's the prerogative of others to continue the levity started on the first page of the thread and encouraged by the OP.

It's all about context, in my opinion.

I've said all I need to say. I'll not further add to this conversation. There's no sense belaboring it.

KA

[_Some Schmo]

Just because you want the board to be a certain way, harmony, doesn't mean everyone else wants the same board you do. If you want a particular type of board, go start one. I happen to like the way this board is.

The reason this board is the way it is is that the people who post here are who they are. Nobody is motivated to change the way they are to suit anyone else around here. It's not a matter of self-control or anything else you want to superimpose on it; it's people being who they are. If you don't like it, don't read it. It's unrealistic on your part to have expectations of the way others post. Do you watch a crappy show on a TV channel just because you like that channel, or do you change it?

Besides, sometimes the conversations around here are drier than a popcorn fart and need some levity. I don't see what the big f***ing deal is.

[_harmony]

Just because you want the board to be a certain way, harmony, doesn't mean everyone else wants the same board you do. If you want a particular type of board, go start one. I happen to like the way this board is.

The reason this board is the way it is is that the people who post here are who they are. Nobody is motivated to change the way they are to suit anyone else around here. It's not a matter of self-control or anything else you want to superimpose on it; it's people being who they are. If you don't like it, don't read it. It's unrealistic on your part to have expectations of the way others post. Do you watch a crappy show on a TV channel just because you like that channel, or do you change it?

Besides, sometimes the conversations around here are drier than a popcorn fart and need some levity. I don't see what the big f***ing deal is.

Written as expected, and you missed the fine points, Schmo. I'm not complaining about the board, Schmo. I'm complaining about the cesspool this Terrestial forum often becomes. If walking hip deep in horse manure is what you want to do, go to the Telestial forum. That's the place for horse manure. I, on the other hand, (and a few others) am tired of wearing my hip waders, a fashion accessory needed in order to navigate the crap you and a few others spew without regard for where you are. The Terrestial forum is not the place for horse manure, including sexualization on every thread.

Many here have expressed a desire to have more LDS post, yet we know they won't, because most of them don't have the necessary hip waders. Why should they come, when every thread ends up being sexualized, with some stupid reference and then the derailment goes south quickly? Serious threads get sidetracked all too often in this forum.

I object to the sexualization of threads where the subject is not sexual in nature. And I am allowed to voice my objection, so stuff your objection to my objection, Schmo. I didn't tell you to go start another board, ya know. I only asked that you keep the muck where it belongs: in Telestial. I think it's inappropriate for the Terrestial forum. I'm not complaining about what goes on in the Telestial forum. Muck it up all you want. I am complaining about the sexualization of many of the threads in this forum.

[_Some Schmo]

Written as expected, and you missed the fine points, Schmo. I'm not complaining about the board, Schmo. I'm complaining about the cesspool this Terrestial forum often becomes. If walking hip deep in horse manure is what you want to do, go to the Telestial forum. That's the place for horse manure. I, on the other hand, (and a few others) am tired of wearing my hip waders, a fashion accessory needed in order to navigate the crap you and a few others spew without regard for where you are. The Terrestial forum is not the place for horse manure, including sexualization on every thread.

Many here have expressed a desire to have more LDS post, yet we know they won't, because most of them don't have the necessary hip waders. Why should they come, when every thread ends up being sexualized, with some stupid reference and then the derailment goes south quickly? Serious threads get sidetracked all too often in this forum.

I object to the sexualization of threads where the subject is not sexual in nature. And I am allowed to voice my objection, so stuff your objection to my objection, Schmo. I didn't tell you to go start another board, ya know. I only asked that you keep the muck where it belongs: in Telestial. I think it's inappropriate for the Terrestial forum. I'm not complaining about what goes on in the Telestial forum. Muck it up all you want. I am complaining about the sexualization of many of the threads in this forum.

I didn't miss anything. You've just repeated the same rubbish you've already stated several times in this thread. We all get it.

I guess, basically what I'm saying (and I guess you missed the most obvious point here yourself) is that many folks don't give a s*** what you want from this board or this particular forum. You don't like it, don't read it. It's really quite simple.

Or is it actually you that doesn't have any self-control? Hmmmm... That certainly would explain other things you've written here.

[_Yoda]

No, I'm not leaving the board...this is not one of those cheesy "talk me out of leaving" type posts. I'm also not criticizing this board or it's posters in any way. I've just found that I'm significantly less interested in the topics concerning Mormonism than I was when I started posting here. During my first six months on the board I read nearly every topic with interest. I've never been a high-volume poster, but when I did post, I put a lot of time and thought into it. Lately, I've been resorting to quick, one-liners. I've also been spending more time in the off-topic forum. I'm wondering if my apathy is a result of my "getting over" Mormonism (I'm still on the records but consider myself an atheist)? Or...am I in some kind of cycle that goes from interest to apathy and back to interest again? Have any of you experienced this cycle? Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Thanks.

This is Silentkid's OP.

Since Silentkid appears to be asking for posters' thoughts and feelings on whether or not they have experienced what he is currently experiencing regarding boredom of Mormonism topics, I don't consider this thread to be particularly scholarly.

Also, since Silentkid is asking for opinions and feelings, in my opinion, he is opening the door for the thread to veer into more personal directions than simply the topic of Mormonism, which is what he is bored with in the first place.

As a Mod, if a topic gets too derailed, I do try to split the topics, as do Shades and Bond.

But frankly, splitting topics is a pain in the ass because it's easy for a post to go into one thread that would readily reference the thread it was split from. Splitting is normally a last resort, and is normally done after a request by the initiator of the thread has been made to me via PM.

Getting back to addressing SilentKid's initial topic.....

Yes, SilentKid, I have gone through cycles where topic bore me, and then I voraciously begin reading again.

I think the reason this happens is two-fold.

1. First of all, when you learn something about a particular topic, it is enlightening. When it is "done to death", however, and there is really no new insight, it's easy for that topic to become boring.

2. Real life can often creep into the picture, and you find that you have less time to devote to the boards, which, in my case, anyway, are more of a social interaction, in the first place.

What's always interesting is that when you least expect it, someone will bring something new to the table of discussion. Or, you may, from your own reading, find something new. Then, the interest regenerates itself.