Defenders: Why didn't Joseph show Isaac Hale the plates?

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Re: Defenders: Why didn't Joseph show Isaac Hale the plates?

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Tom wrote:The Hill Cumorah is approximately three miles southeast of the Smith farm. That's a long trek.

Joseph took Joseph Knight's wagon to get the plates from the hill.

Where was he coming from on the night that he carried them by himself? How far? Do you know?
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Daniel Peterson wrote:Where was he coming from on the night that he carried them by himself? How far? Do you know?

Would it make a difference?

Lets say it was 50 yards. Lets say the plates weighed 30lbs. So? The story is still impossible.
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Re: Defenders: Why didn't Joseph show Isaac Hale the plates?

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Daniel Peterson wrote:
Tom wrote:The Hill Cumorah is approximately three miles southeast of the Smith farm. That's a long trek.

Joseph took Joseph Knight's wagon to get the plates from the hill.

Where was he coming from on the night that he carried them by himself? How far? Do you know?


A careful reading of Andrew Hedges' article in JBMS 8/2 might help to answer that question, if you are genuinely interested in an answer.
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Re: Defenders: Why didn't Joseph show Isaac Hale the plates?

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Excellent article.

So how far did he run?

Did he find it effortless?

Are there any other witnesses to his having entered the house carrying a heavy object?
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Scottie wrote:Lets say it was 50 yards. Lets say the plates weighed 30lbs. So? The story is still impossible.

You think it's impossible to carry thirty pounds for fifty yards?
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How do you wrap 40-200+ lbs plates in THAT, and not have them falling out?

Has anyone ever attempted to hold something that weighs 40-200 + lbs "tucked" under your arm? And then run with it? Freakin' impossible, especially being wrapped in a linen frock... The metal object would be constantly slip sliding out.

And also, how does one approach a log, not see a dude hiding either in front of it as you jump over it, or on the other side of the log as you go over it? Not once. Not twice... But behold! THREE TIMES!?!?!??!

C'mon........ Seriously? Really? You apologists REALLY buy off on this crap story? It's fantastically bad.
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For the fun of it, I just walked fifty yards carrying forty pounds. (I couldn't find a thirty pound weight.)

Although I did it, it's clearly impossible.

Case closed.

Dismiss the witnesses.
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Re: Defenders: Why didn't Joseph show Isaac Hale the plates?

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Daniel Peterson wrote:Excellent article.

So how far did he run?

Did he find it effortless?

Are there any other witnesses to his having entered the house carrying a heavy object?


I would suggest rereading Andrew Hedges' article for answers to your questions.
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Tom wrote:I would suggest rereading Andrew Hedges' article for answers to your questions.

So would I.
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Re: Defenders: Why didn't Joseph show Isaac Hale the plates?

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Daniel Peterson wrote:For the fun of it, I just walked fifty yards carrying forty pounds. (I couldn't find a thirty pound weight.)

Although I did it, it's clearly impossible.

Case closed.

Dismiss the witnesses.


Yeah, right. Now take that weight, wrap it in your jacket, tuck it under your arm, and walk 1/2 a mile. Please return and report.

While you're out getting your exercise on the rest of us can review this blog:

http://kettlebellplanet.blogspot.com/20 ... s-way.html
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