Jason Bourne wrote:So in other words Scratch demands UNCONDITIONAL surrender from DCP in orde for Scratch to stop his smears, innuendos, over the top hyperbole spins and character assassination. Peterson must concede that the spins and distortions and innuendos are correct then Scratch will stop such spins, distortions and innuendos. Well one thigs we know aboutg Scratch is he has hutzpa. My advice to Dr. Peterson regardig this offer is to tell Scratch to go suck eggs.
A) The word is "chutzpah." B) It's not true that I'm calling for "unconditional" surrender (whatever that means). C) DCP can carry on without atoning / apologizing. It is his eternal salvation that's being thrown under the bus.
Anyways, Jason, I've asked you multiple times to prove that my criticism is "spin", and you've never been able to do it.
Jersey Girl wrote:I see that, in return for certain concessions on Daniel's part, Scratch now offers to cease posting, delete the blog and go away.
Within the past week, Scratch discussed a possible trip to Utah and proposed a face-to-face with Daniel, within minutes began to question the particulars of said meeting, and finally withdrew the offer because his trip plans had been cancelled.
It wasn't long ago that Scratch also offered to reveal his identity. Curious that, since he was up in arms over the Itchy Blog wherein some sort of in real life information was posted about him.
Within the past two years, Scratch has also stated he would cease posting about specific individuals.
Scratch has a history of making claims/offers for which there is no follow through.
Is this simple baiting? Methinks, yes.
'I know I said that I would....but...'
Uh huh.
Yes, yes---of course. All of this coming from "the straight shooter" who "dick dances" around the answers to very straightforward questions.
Tell me, Jersey: are you ready to apologize to us for your bogus Kerry Shirts accusations? You know, since you are so noble, so interested in standing up for The Truth? Or is the reality that you only play that card when it coincides with one of your Drama Queen freakouts?
Tell me, Jersey: are you ready to apologize to us for your bogus Kerry Shirts accusations?
Who is the "us" that you refer to? Are you ready to apologize for providing the catalyst for the Z trolls and Itchy Blog, for sitting idly by while Ztrolls were posting in real life information on ZLMB, for publicy posting false accusations regarding the identity of Ztrolls, for behaving like a psychotic wretch in the chat room (perhaps the board would be interested in seeing your end of that conversation) or for continually posting inaccuracies about people and situations for which you obviously lack familiarity?
There is no "us", dear. There is you twisting in the wind desperately playing one trick pony.
You know, since you are so noble, so interested in standing up for The Truth? Or is the reality that you only play that card when it coincides with one of your Drama Queen freakouts?
The only Drama Queen on this board is you, punkin, and your two year pathological attempt to avenge Quinn.
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Mister Scratch wrote:It is his eternal salvation that's being thrown under the bus.
This, I'm confident, is a true watershed moment in the history of acute congenital Scartcholepsy.
Never before, in the recorded symptomology of this horrific psychopathological complex, has a suffering Scartcholeptic sought to assume the role in the last judgment typically reserved for God.
Jason Bourne wrote:So in other words Scratch demands UNCONDITIONAL surrender from DCP in orde for Scratch to stop his smears, innuendos, over the top hyperbole spins and character assassination. Peterson must concede that the spins and distortions and innuendos are correct then Scratch will stop such spins, distortions and innuendos. Well one thigs we know aboutg Scratch is he has hutzpa. My advice to Dr. Peterson regardig this offer is to tell Scratch to go suck eggs.
Precisely.
Apparently Scratch has assumed the position of self superior clearing house for your sins and confessions, Daniel, and in doing so has apparently placed himself on par with Christ Almighty.
Might I suggest that you begin your next reply to him with the phrase "Forgive me Father, for I have sinned"?
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
Mister Scratch wrote:It is his eternal salvation that's being thrown under the bus.
This, I'm confident, is a true watershed moment in the history of acute congenital Scartcholepsy.
Never before, in the recorded symptomology of this horrific psychopathological complex, has a suffering Scartcholeptic sought to assume the role in the last judgment typically reserved for God.
Please see my new post above. Ha!
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
Yes, yes---of course. All of this coming from "the straight shooter" who "dick dances" around the answers to very straightforward questions.
What straightforward questions are you referring to here? The chat conversation? I'm afraid if you continue to mention that, I'll feel compelled to post it in it's entirety.
You know, Scratch, I could almost find it in me to empathize with your journery/purpose here if it weren't for the disingenuous way you've gone about it. Are you completely unware that of the pattern of behavior you display on this board? Typically, when people are focused or even hyperfocused on one issue (such as drawing out points to support a position and especially when one is personally driven) they aren't aware of the incidental behaviors they exhibit and in your case, a pattern of behaviors.
For example, your use of the word "us" when you attempt to exact apologies from me when your real purpose is to evade addressing the points I raised about your history here. You attempt to create the appearance of a group when no group exists. You, infact, have done this nearly consistently in your postings over the course of two years on this board. It's difficult to discern whether or not you yourself believe it, think the reader believes it or that you're entirely unaware of what you do.
You're more than interesting to observe.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
Tell me, Jersey: are you ready to apologize to us for your bogus Kerry Shirts accusations?
Who is the "us" that you refer to?
Myself, harmony, Dr. Shades, and anyone else your false rumor affected.
Are you ready to apologize for providing the catalyst for the Z trolls and Itchy Blog,
No, not really since I was affected by it. Oddly, you are the only one who makes this accusation, despite the fact that the blog didn't affect you personally in any way whatsoever.
for sitting idly by while Ztrolls were posting in real life information on ZLMB,
Right. I would have been better off flailing about erratically and uncontrollably, falsely accusing Kerry of being one of the trolls.
for behaving like a psychotic wretch in the chat room
Gee, you were really hurt by that, weren't you? Did you get you feelings hurt, Jersey, or did you feel like you were being....jerked around? If so, let me know. Let's try and work this out. I'm sure you want the drama to come to an end. Right?
Mister Scratch wrote:It is his eternal salvation that's being thrown under the bus.
This, I'm confident, is a true watershed moment in the history of acute congenital Scartcholepsy.
Never before, in the recorded symptomology of this horrific psychopathological complex, has a suffering Scartcholeptic sought to assume the role in the last judgment typically reserved for God.
Gee, do you suffer from this complex yourself? Observe:
Daniel Peterson wrote:This is not merely disagreement; you [Rollo Tomasi] are bearing false witness against me, and you will, I believe, someday have to account for it. You have the temporary advantage of what, in this context, strikes me as a rather cowardly anonymity. But that will not save you from the accounting.
But I will deny as false, and slanderously so, your depiction of my attitude and behavior toward Mike Quinn as “venomous,” “sick,” and the like. This is not only untrue, but libelous. Nor did I ever suggest that it was Quinn’s homosexuality that has kept him from getting a job, or that it ought to do so. You traduce me when you publicly say such things, and you will someday be obliged to acknowledge the falsehood and injustice of your public accusations.
I do not take this lightly. I’m not joking, and this is not a game. As God is my witness, what you are saying is false, and I will so testify.
I will have no further dealings with you, so far as I can avoid them. In my eyes, whatever claim you may once have had to the moral high ground -- and I was more than willing to give you the benefit of the doubt -- has now been forfeited. Your behavior is contemptible and unwarranted.
I think I'm going to draw out here what I previously alluded to. In the above series of exchanges, I presented a list of claims on your part to cease posting, meet with DCP, reveal your identity and to cease posting threads about DCP, all of which you for one reason or another, have failed to follow through on. I'll grant you that your "offer" to cease posting and reveal your identity are contingent on exacting one or more apologies from DCP.
Having said that, in response to my list of your unsatisfied claims, you ask me if I've apologized to "us". I know that you're doing so is an attempt to avoid dealing with the facts I listed on your failure to follow through on claims however, let me show you what it is you do.
There you attempt to insert yourself into a group (in the mind of the public I suppose) as if you are part of them seeking an apology on behalf of the group.
Perhaps you think that will intimidate me, but that sort of tactic just doesn't work with me. I see it coming a mile away, I know what the purpose of it is (evasion/intimidation) and it doesn't faze me in the least.
Back to the group you inserted yourself into. The group you name is harmony, Shades and yourself and you do so in reference to the Ztrolls/Itchy Blog. You are either completely unaware, even after being told straight up, or are intentionally ignoring the fact that my participation in the events surrounding the Ztrolls/Itchy Blog were on account of years long interaction with both harmony and Shades, and support of this (then) new board. That's why the information I provided (regarding what they were posting and later, who I thought might be part of it) went directly to harmony and Shades, and not to you.
You were also told that I didn't recognize your information because I don't know you.
Do you think I recognize you as part of the group?
Whenever you choose to post about this you name Shades and harmony. What you're doing is posting the handiest names you can think of because you didn't bother to notice that they weren't the only victims of the Ztrolls and Itchy, when if you were indeed part of them...you would have known that.
So no, you get no public apology here from me regarding anything. You are and were never of personal interest to me as a victim of the Ztrolls or Itchy Blog.
Again, what you were doing was attempting to insert yourself as part of a group in order profit from your posting in that you thought it would draw attention away from the assertions I made regarding your failure to follow through on your claims.
Your behavior is almost always self focused.
Your attempts to give the appearance that you're surrounded with trusted anonymous informants. Three of your informants are known to me.
Your attempts to exact apologies from DCP exhibit the same exact behavior. While you list a number of persons and events which you think warrant apologies, it's clear to anyone who has read this board and your posts for 2 years, that your one and only interest is D. Michael Quinn and that you simply insert Quinn into whatever group you've chosen to create at any given point in time.
You aren't interested in DCP's salvation. If your interest were spiritual, you wouldn't be attemping to place yourself in the position of Father Confessor. You place yourself in that position (as if DCP should send his confessions and apologies not to God or the persons involved, but to you) because you're not here to help Daniel....you're here to help yourself.
At the root of all of this is your hope to avenge Quinn.
Either you are someone close to Quinn or you are Quinn. The rest on the list (Ritner, et al) are just window dressing.
No one in this has been less straightforward than you.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
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