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After skimming through this thread, I'm left frustrated and confused. Where's the porn?
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Jason Bourne wrote:
Quit acting like a dumbass
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And as is typical you stoop to name calling as well. Carry on.

Is "acting like a dumbass" the same as being a dumbass? I chose that wording because you don't usually act like a dumbass, but somehow, today, you're pissed off about something. I suppose you must have identified too much with the typical anal retentive religious type. Too bad for you. Hard for me to care when you act like a dick.

As typical for you, however, when you get pissed, you're completely irrational and sound like a shrill baby. Carry on.
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Jason Bourne wrote:
Quit acting like a dumbass
.

And as is typical you stoop to name calling as well. Carry on.

Is "acting like a dumbass" the same as being a dumbass? I chose that wording because you don't usually act like a dumbass, but somehow, today, you're pissed off about something. I suppose you must have identified too much with the typical anal retentive religious type. Too bad for you. Hard for me to care when you act like a dick.

As typical for you, however, when you get pissed, you're completely irrational and sound like a shrill baby. Carry on.[/quote]


I am not pissed a bit. I just tire of the stupid remarks about how horribly vacuous you think religion is and religious people are. Tough crap if you don't like to be told what an ass it often makes you and other non believers look like.

Really, this board and much of the antics here are not that big of an issue to me. I enjoy the board mostly for entertainment. At times it is boring, at times interesting, at times funny and at times mildly annoying. I am surprised when long time posters leave because they tire of it save a few. I see why DCP would leave because he is utterly abused when he posts here. But most know what the board is. It is easy to ignore someone.

But if you think I am pissed you are a poor judge of a persons post.

Feel free to have the last word if you wish.
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Jason Bourne wrote: I am not pissed a bit. I just tire of the stupid remarks about how horribly vacuous you think religion is and religious people are. Tough crap if you don't like to be told what an ass it often makes you and other non believers look like.

LOL

So you weren't pissed, just tired?

Well, I get tired of stupid remarks defending what religious people think. Tough crap if you don't like to be told what a dumbass it often makes you and other believers look like.

You might actually think your brand of criticism is superior, but it's the same damn thing.

But please, feel free to keep whining about it.
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GoodK wrote:The above post, along with most of the others that trumpet the dangers of porn, are mind-numbingly stupid. How on earth does porn exploit women? Do you know any female porn stars? I do. This simply isn't true. If anything is a scourge, it's a bigoted cult with billions in assets and tax exempt status.

How on earth does prostitution exploit women? Just because not all porn stars are exploited doesn't mean that it isn't a huge problem for the porn industry. Did you read what I wrote, or only what you think Mormons would write? Try again.
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Some Schmo wrote:I get slightly exasperated by this notion that it “exploits women.” Give me a break. These ladies make a tremendous amount of money doing what they do. If anything, it exploits men and their intrinsic desire to see naked women.

But I don’t even really think it exploits either sex. Women are getting paid, men are getting aroused. If either didn’t want to do it, they wouldn’t.

Ah, kudos for actually adresssing the issue. I, of course, disagree and I don't think it's on religious grounds. I suppose many of those women do make lots of money, but I don't consider that do be good evidence against exploitation. IT seems to me that the money issue only increases the pressure for women to do that.

But if porn is as harmless as mug shot, why would it matter? Would it be exploitation if I paid someone millions for a mug shot? No, but just as adult porn is NOT equivalent to kiddie porn, it's not equivalent to a mug shot. Porn is where one gives up some very intimate privacy in exchange for money. Porn makes the stars out to be one-dimensional and makes it difficult to see other talents or skills that woman may have, especially if she wants to try a different profession. Right or wrong, there are deep cultural stigmas attached to it as there are for prostitutes. That is why I made the comparison between porn and prostitution. Perhaps none of them are forced into it (although I still question the pressure on the poor), but the desire for money or fame can make one shortsighted. It's hard to know what we'll want with life later on, and I think being a porn star closes a lot of doors due to the way you will chnage others' perception of you--not necessarily that they see you as dirty, but that they are so focused on your body that they do not notice the rest of you.
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asbestosman wrote:
GoodK wrote:The above post, along with most of the others that trumpet the dangers of porn, are mind-numbingly stupid. How on earth does porn exploit women? Do you know any female porn stars? I do. This simply isn't true. If anything is a scourge, it's a bigoted cult with billions in assets and tax exempt status.

How on earth does prostitution exploit women? Just because not all porn stars are exploited doesn't mean that it isn't a huge problem for the porn industry. Did you read what I wrote, or only what you think Mormons would write? Try again.


Ok I will try again. Prostitution doesn't exploit women either. That better?

Just because a profession involves something that Christians are taught to be terrified of does not mean they are exploiting themselves anymore than anyone who works for a living. I find it terrifically ironic when staunch conservatives and capitalists act all concerned for those poor girls being "exploited" by greedy Internet porn consumers.
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GoodK wrote:Ok I will try again. Prostitution doesn't exploit women either. That better?

Yes.

If I recall correctly, the country of Sweden disagrees and is going after the customers of prostitution. I would hardly consider Sweden to be a bunch of religious conservitives.

Just because a profession involves something that Christians are taught to be terrified of does not mean they are exploiting themselves anymore than anyone who works for a living.

I think you're right as far as that goes. That's why I said more in my response to Schmo about mug shots vs porn shots. Porn can make it difficult for others to see other talents because they are too distracted by your body. That's not to say it's impossible for people to appreciate both (many like their spouses physically, while appreciating their other talents). However, I think with porn stars it does provide a significant road block for letting others see the rest of them.

I find it terrifically ironic when staunch conservatives and capitalists act all concerned for those poor girls being "exploited" by greedy Internet porn consumers.

If you're talking about me, I do believe capitalism is best for economies, but it sucks for people. People need help when markets change and they lose their jobs. I don't believe in leaving someone in the cold because he's down on his luck, but I don't believe in a lifetime guarantee of a middle-class standard of living either. I belive in providing enough cushion that I could tolerate it if I were down on my luck. I don't think that's hypocritical.
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It may not be hypocritical, but it isn't capitalist, either.

As far as porn stars are concerned, it's sort of cute in a naïve way how you think they are so tremendously different looking as to cause a second glance and a thorough background check at some potential job interview in the future. Maybe I am just extremely fortunate, but I don't think any of my porn star friends look different from the average girl nor do I find any of them particularly attractive.

Like I said, porn doesn't exploit women, and even if it did, that's not why Christians would care.
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mentalgymnast wrote:
Mister Scratch wrote:I have not said one way or the other what my "views" on pornography are.


What are they?

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Hmmm...?

What do you actually think about anything? You sure like to hang others out to dry...but who are you? What do you stand for...if anything.

Regards,
MG
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