Bill Hamblin's idiotic Book of Mormon ''challenges''

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Re: Bill Hamblin's idiotic Book of Mormon ''challenges''

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http://farms.BYU.edu/authors/?authorID=27

Happy reading.


If this is your answer, then I have no choice but to believe you either aren't being honest, are being evasive for some reason, or that you give out your praise way to easy. It's unlikely that everything Hamblin has written for FARMS, every single point of every single essay, is equally brilliant, and brilliant beyond what everyone you know comes up with. This is a huge put down of a lot of people, considering you have the largest contact list of elite people of anyone I know.

And you say I compliment Mister Scratch too much. OMG.
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Gadianton wrote:I have no choice but to believe you either aren't being honest, are being evasive for some reason, or that you give out your praise way to easy.

If I were a Scratchist, I'd go for the first option. In fact, that would be the default choice.
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Daniel Peterson wrote:
floatingboy wrote:Before I got to the end of the sentence, I thought you were going to say "like Joseph Smith".

Of course, Joseph Smith had a legitimate government military commission as a lieutenant general.

No. As I said, I was thinking of Michael Jackson. Mister Scratch as "Captain Eeyore."



it honestly popped into my head as i read your post and i couldn't resist the chance at humor. but since i don't wish to appear to be one who jumps at every little chance to defame j.s. over every little thing, i'll say that it was more for it's humorous appeal than anything else. i really wasn't trying to make a statement about the (il)legitimacy of his government military commission. but since you bring it up, wasn't he just appointed "lieutenant general" of the nauvoo legion (the formation of which was permitted under the city charter) "under" john c. bennett? i can't find a reference for his appointment as coming from a higher source (which doesn't mean it doesn't exist). i think this coincided with his unanimous nomination as the chair of various civic committees under the new charter. a very popular fellow! (reminds me a little of when, as a kid, i wanted to form a boys only club with my neighbors and felt it only appropriate that i be president of it). this is getting so off topic, but just to summarize, i'm not questioning the legality or legitimacy of his appointment as lieutenant general of the nauvoo legion, just questioning how seriously we should take it versus how seriously he seemed to take it. i get the impression that he was tickled not a little by such honors and showed it by getting all dressed up, parading around and addressing the troops (which is what your post made me think of). hey, he was a human being...it's okay. i'm just sayin'.
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Daniel Peterson wrote:
floatingboy wrote:Before I got to the end of the sentence, I thought you were going to say "like Joseph Smith".

Of course, Joseph Smith had a legitimate government military commission as a lieutenant general.

No. As I said, I was thinking of Michael Jackson. Mister Scratch as "Captain Eeyore."


When you are the head of a cult like Joseph Smith, you can pretty much proclaim yourself anything you want and your credulous followers will ratify it.
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CC's ignorance and characteristic hostile arrogance notwithstanding, Joseph Smith received his commission as lieutenant general from Thomas Carlin, governor of Illinois, effective 5 February 1841.
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Daniel Peterson wrote:CC's ignorance and characteristic hostile arrogance notwithstanding, Joseph Smith received his commission as lieutenant general from Thomas Carlin, governor of Illinois, effective 5 February 1841.


Would Smith have received that commission without his community of dupes who voted as a block? I sincerely doubt it.
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Calculus Crusader wrote:Would Smith have received that commission without his community of dupes who voted as a block? I sincerely doubt it.

Your "doubts," even when expressed with your typically rather juvenile aggressive contempt, are irrelevant.

You insinuated that Joseph appointed himself. Your insinuation was false.
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Governor Cailin issued the following Commission—

APPOINTMENT OF JOSEPH SMITH LIEUTENANT-GENERAL OF THE NAUVOO LEGION.

Thomas Carlin, Governor of the State of Illinois, to all to whom these presents shall come: Greeting—

Know ye that Joseph Smith, having been duly elected to the office of lieutenant-general, Nauvoo Legion, of the militia of the State of Illinois, I, Thomas Carlin. governor of said state, do commission him lieutenant- general of the Nauvoo Legion, to take rank from the fifth day of February, 1841. He is, therefore, carefully and diligently to discharge the duties of said office, by doing and performing all manner of things thereunto belonging; and I do strictly require all officers and soldiers under his command to be obedient to his orders: and he is to obey such orders and directions as he shall receive, from time to time, from the commander-in-chief or his superior officer.

In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and caused the great seal of state to be hereunto affixed. Done at Springfield, this tenth day of March, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and forty-one, and of the independence of the United States the sixty-fifth.

By the Governor,

[seal] Thomas Carlin.

Lyman Trumball,

Secretary of State.


Note that Smith had been elected by his community of dupes before the governor issued the commission.
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I am aggressively contemptuous of all religious charlatans, not just Smith.
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Calculus Crusader wrote:his community of dupes

How old are you, CC? You come across as a rather belligerent adolescent.

You're too bright to behave like poor antishock8 and Some Schmo and collegeterrace/PP. They apparently have no other intellectual tools. You do.
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