What I've learned from apologetics

[_Ray A]

1. I didn't make any of the original posts. They were made on a board I am banned from, and accused a person who is also banned from there of something really heinous. (I notice you managed to miss that entirely, marg...)

But if she is banned from here, she can't respond. She can respond on MAD if she wants.

So there should be no discussion here.

And I suppose I'm hypocritically, once again, fueling it, but I had to reply to this.

[_marg]

Harmony you do not know when to quit, you are incapable of admitting when you are wrong. You jumped to the conclusion that M was guilty without thinking about other possibilities. You are wrong to suggest that whoever wrote that post, whether it was a family member or not, should come here and discuss.

The reason I supported M's banning here, was that I believed she had posted some private information, not terribly egregious, but after being asked not to she did just the same. That was my primary reason. But I don't think M is a terrible person, a liar, seeks drama. And your accusations are ethically wrong especially because she can not defend herself here.

[_harmony]

1. I didn't make any of the original posts. They were made on a board I am banned from, and accused a person who is also banned from there of something really heinous. (I notice you managed to miss that entirely, marg...)

But if she is banned from here, she can't respond. She can respond on MAD if she wants.

So there should be no discussion here.

And I suppose I'm hypocritically, once again, fueling it, but I had to reply to this.

Back to the top we go...

That only works, if the M who made the posts is the M who is banned here, Ray! And if it is indeed M who made those posts, WHY ARE YOU NOT DEFENDING KA????? Here, there, and wherever? M, whoever M is, accused KA of a very heinous thing over there, where KA cannot defend herself! Why is it okay for M to make a very serious accusation against KA, in a place where she cannot defend herself, but it's not okay for me to bring the record of that accusation here? Where is the justice in that, Ray? Where?

And IF, as marg postulates, it was M's mother who made the posts, SHE CAN POST HERE!

[_Ray A]

Back to the top we go...

That only works, if the M who made the posts is the M who is banned here, Ray! And if it is indeed M who made those posts, WHY ARE YOU NOT DEFENDING KA????? Here, there, and wherever? M, whoever M is, accused KA of a very heinous thing over there, where KA cannot defend herself! Why is it okay for M to make a very serious accusation against KA, in a place where she cannot defend herself, but it's not okay for me to bring the record of that accusation here? Where is the justice in that, Ray? Where?

And IF, as marg postulates, it was M's mother who made the posts, SHE CAN POST HERE!

You still don't get it, Harm. There should be no discussion of "M", her mother, or anything to do with her here.

Can of worms?

[_Jersey Girl]

Why should someone's mother be expected to post here?

[_harmony]

Harmony you do not know when to quit, you are incapable of admitting when you are wrong. You jumped to the conclusion that M was guilty without thinking about other possibilities. You are wrong to suggest that whoever wrote that post, whether it was a family member or not, should come here and discuss.

The reason I supported M's banning here, was that I believed she had posted some private information, not terribly egregious, but after being asked not to she did just the same. That was my primary reason. But I don't think M is a terrible person, a liar, seeks drama. And your accusations are ethically wrong especially because she can not defend herself here.

marg, marg, marg... that's why I love you so much! You don't know when to shut the hell up! Let's keep this up all night, see how much longer we can keep this thread on the top of the forum! Good God Almighty, woman, you don't know when to shut the hell up!

She doesn't have to defend herself here! She can defend herself on MAD. And her MOTHER can defend her here (or are you now backing away from that idea?)

This part of this thread (poor Runtu, we hijacked his thread) is not about the person who is banned from here. This part of this thread is about KA, and a very nasty accusation/lie told about her, in a place where she cannot respond!

You don't think accusing KA of something as heinous as being connected with a suicide attempt is somehow NOT seeking drama? Not a lie? What kind of person does that? Do you freakin' need to me to go quote it again???? Good God, woman! Get a clue!

[_harmony]

You still don't get it, Harm. There should be no discussion of "M", her mother, or anything to do with her here.

Can of worms?

No, you don't get it, Ray. M, whoever M is, posted a very heinous accusation against KA, in a place where KA could not respond. The can of worms was not opened by me, nor was it opened by KA; it was opened by M, whoever M is.

We have no proof of who M is. Why do you assume it is the poster who was banned from here? Why do you assume the M from MAD cannot post here?

And I want to know why you aren't defending KA on MAD. You can post there. She can't; neither can I. Why are you not defending her? Why are you not calling M, whoever M is, to account?

[_harmony]

Why should someone's mother be expected to post here?

Hell if I know. marg seems to think the original poster was someone's mother.

[_Ray A]

You don't think accusing KA of something as heinous as being connected with a suicide attempt is somehow NOT seeking drama? Not a lie? What kind of person does that? Do you freakin' need to me to go quote it again???? Good God, woman! Get a clue!

And what did KA say about this? To put it mildly, she didn't give a crap.

It's not exactly the first rumour ever started on forums.

No?

Why, I've been accused of being a "Mormon John".

[_marg]

You don't think accusing KA of something as heinous as ...... is somehow NOT seeking drama? Not a lie? What kind of person does that? Do you freakin' need to me to go quote it again???? Good God, woman! Get a clue!

No Harmony you need to get a clue..seriously. You are making assumptions without sufficient facts. M asked for that post to be removed. Her post was removed but just like what happens here, it remained as a quote in 2 other people's posts, which you took upon herself to copy over here, along with attacking M in the process. And when all this discussion is said and done, hopefully the next time you'll reconsider making assumptions..and perhaps some of these posts will be deleted.