Currently at MADB - Will loses his mojo

[_Trevor]

I agree. Unfortunately I only have access to harmony-credit.

I hear you. Trevor credit goes for even less than harmony credit.

[_Runtu]

Currently, Will is arguing against my point by agreeing with my point. It's fascinating to watch.

[_Kishkumen]

Currently, Will is arguing against my point by agreeing with my point. It's fascinating to watch.

And this shows exactly why I never want to break away from this hobby. Poking fun at Mopologetics has to be one of the best forms of cheap entertainment out there.

[_Runtu]

I can die content now that Will has taken David Bokovoy to task over his views on the Book of Abraham. Given the choice, I'll take levelheaded, honest Bokovoy over bombastic, polemical William.

[_silentkid]

I can die content now that Will has taken David Bokovoy to task over his views on the Book of Abraham. Given the choice, I'll take levelheaded, honest Bokovoy over bombastic, polemical William.

That exchange is priceless. Will has lost it. Completely. He should stick to horse breeding.

[_harmony]

I can die content now that Will has taken David Bokovoy to task over his views on the Book of Abraham. Given the choice, I'll take levelheaded, honest Bokovoy over bombastic, polemical William.

Levelheaded, honest, smart, educated... yeah, EE Trump's Will every time.

[_Kishkumen]

He should stick to horse breeding.

How personally involved is he in that process?

[_Kishkumen]

I can die content now that Will has taken David Bokovoy to task over his views on the Book of Abraham. Given the choice, I'll take levelheaded, honest Bokovoy over bombastic, polemical William.

Will seems to have really lost his marbles over there. Now he seems to be arguing, against David, that Joseph Smith must have translated a Ptolemaic version of a more ancient, original Abraham text. This is beyond strange, in my opinion, because one would have thought that the purpose of these "translations" was to restore things to their pristine state. Take, for example, Joseph's restoration of the Bible. Problematic as it is, I have a difficult time accepting that Smith did not think or at least represent himself as restoring pure and precious things that were lost thanks to the apostasy. So why would God have Smith translate a much later version of this supposed Abraham autobiography? Is it more likely than the original to be correct? If he did not need the text itself as a translation source, but as a catalyst, why would that catalysis not be toward a revelation of the original Book of Abraham?

[_Yong Xi]

He should stick to horse breeding.

How personally involved is he in that process?

Stands on DCP's shoulders.

[_Kevin Graham]

This is astounding folks, and I saw this coming a mile away.

I can die content now that Will has taken David Bokovoy to task over his views on the Book of Abraham. Given the choice, I'll take levelheaded, honest Bokovoy over bombastic, polemical William.

Bokovoy's testimony is detrimental to the cause because for years all we have been hearing from the apologists is that our views are as they are, simply because we are anti-Mormons looking for teh worst case scenarios, and that they hold to their views because they are the most reasonable views to have. Along comes Bokovy, claiming it is "sheer nonsense." Kudos to David for having teh integrity to do so.

They also love to appeal to authority (remember Gee's ludicrous Egyptian test?). Juliann and Will used to taunt Metcalfe all the time because unlike Hauglid and Gee, he wasn't published by academic presses. Bokovy has been.

And then there was the constant insinuations that Gee and Hauglid were professional text critics. This is horsecrap. They are professional apologists, period. David is too, probably, but the difference is that David can set aside stupid apologetic arguments when he sees them, probably because he has actually had formal training in textual criticism and can see how embarrassing these arguments are getting.

He doesn't want to be lumped in with those guys just because he is a faithful LDS scholar, and he shouldn't have to be.