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Buffalo wrote:The church is outright lying in their Mormonism 101 FAQ. Check it out:

http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/mormonism-101#C14

Do Latter-day Saints believe that they will “get their own planet”?

No. This idea is not taught in Latter-day Saint scripture, nor is it a doctrine of the Church. This misunderstanding stems from speculative comments unreflective of scriptural doctrine. Mormons believe that we are all sons and daughters of God and that all of us have the potential to grow during and after this life to become like our Heavenly Father (see Romans 8:16-17). The Church does not and has never purported to fully understand the specifics of Christ’s statement that “in my Father’s house are many mansions” (John 14:2).




http://www.LDS.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?l ... 82620aRCRD

From “Chapter 36: Eternal Life,” Gospel Fundamentals

The Celestial Kingdom

This is the place where our Father in Heaven and Jesus live. It is a place where people will be happy, and it will be more beautiful than we can imagine. The people who will live in this kingdom will love our Father in Heaven and Jesus and will choose to obey Them. They must have repented of all their sins and must have accepted Jesus as their Savior. They must have been baptized and received the gift of the Holy Ghost. They must have a testimony from the Holy Ghost that Jesus is the Savior.

To live in the highest part of the celestial kingdom is called exaltation* or eternal life. To be able to live in this part of the celestial kingdom, people must have been married in the temple and must have kept the sacred promises they made in the temple. They will receive everything our Father in Heaven has and will become like Him. They will even be able to have spirit children and make new worlds for them to live on, and do all the things our Father in Heaven has done. People who are not married in the temple may live in other parts of the celestial kingdom, but they will not be exalted.


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why me wrote:Where does it say that we will have are own planets? I only see divine nature and living with heavenly father. I see no other planets. Critics claim that Mormons teach that they will be gods of their own planet if they live faithfully. I see no such thing in the scriptures or in the manuals.


Will Exalted Mormons Get Their Own Spirit Children and Planets?:
http://www.mrm.org/spirit-children-and-planets
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DarkHelmet wrote:Not necessarily. Putting on my apologist hat for a minute, the quote from LDS.org says "They will even be able to have spirit children and make new worlds for them to live on." The question on Mormonism 101 was "Do Latter-day Saints believe that they will “get their own planet”" to which the answer on the website is "no". The anti-mormon might think they are clever by suggesting there is a contradiction here, but those who actually study the gospel know that there is no contradiction. There can be no contradiction, because the gospel is true. The problem is the anti-mormon confuses the word "Earth" with the word "worlds". The question was about Mormons getting their own planets. Mormons don't believe that, but they do believe they will be able to create worlds for their spirit children to live on. This is an important distinction. The world will be for their children, not for them. And world does not necessarily mean a planet. After all, we have lots of worlds that aren't planets: SeaWorld, Disney World, World of Warcraft, World Health Organization, The World Series, etc. None of these worlds are actual planets. So you see, we just don't know what kind of world we will be making, and we recommend not speculating on this subject any further.


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why me wrote:
Kittens_and_Jesus wrote:You have been proven wrong on this one. Numerous posters have shown you where it is taught in the manuals. Own up to it.


Where does it say that we will have are own planets? I only see divine nature and living with heavenly father. I see no other planets. Critics claim that Mormons teach that they will be gods of their own planet if they live faithfully. I see no such thing in the scriptures or in the manuals.


I know I've responded to this post already, but I found even more information.

From A Parent's Guide Chapter 4 (look it up on LDS.org)

“Each one of you has it within the realm of his possibility to develop a kingdom over which you will preside as its king and god. You will need to develop yourself and grow in ability and power and worthiness, to govern such a world with all of its people..."

What was that again about it not being taught in the manuals?
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It would appear that Why Me has fled the thread...
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Drifting wrote:It would appear that Why Me has fled the thread...


I've been lurking here a while and all I can say is this: typical.
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I've already explained in another thread the direction the Church is going with this. The mistake apologists can't overcome is there were Church leaders (and Church material) that taught this non-sense (and you can quote them). Eventually, they'll have to acknowledge that those leaders were mistaken as well.
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Buffalo,

It would have been completely acceptable to say "check and mate"! Well done :-)
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Maxrep wrote:Buffalo,

It would have been completely acceptable to say "check and mate"! Well done :-)



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Drifting wrote:It would appear that Why Me has fled the thread...


Of course. He argued that the church never taught that members would become gods. Then he shifted the argument to the church has never taught that members would get their own planets. Since he has been shown actual quotes from correlated manuals that prove the church taught those things (which he would have already known if he actually went to church) he has nothing else to say. Apologists sometimes forget that most of the critics here were once members who actually went to church and listened to the lessons.
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