Ludd wrote:I think there is reason to believe that Bradford was convinced by the allegations made here concerning Schryver. Whether or not that was the reason the article in question was not published, I don't know. From what I have seen, there were other political machinations in play at the time. I think it's very possible that Schryver's article was just a victim of the bigger conflict between Bradford and Peterson. That's what Peterson seemed to be saying in his email to Bradford.
Why wouldn't Bradford have been convinced? Schryver's words are all there for everyone to see. He can deny all he wants but too many people have seen his antics for too many years. I have no idea why anyone would 1) think Schryver didn't say or do what he has obviously said and done or 2) think that those things don't count as misogyny or bad behavior.
"It doesn't seem fair, does it Norm--that I should have so much knowledge when there are people in the world that have to go to bed stupid every night." -- Clifford C. Clavin, USPS
"¡No contaban con mi astucia!" -- El Chapulin Colorado
First you post what you suggest is an example of Peterson being a liar.
I ask for the evidence.
You say, "get the evidence yourself".
Wow!
And you're a lazy investigator. You know who to talk to but it looks like you're afraid to. I also saw the videos of the endowment before they were public knowledge and said so though I did not break my confidence until after it was public knowledge. If that becomes the case here I'll share my evidence. Until then you are free to do the same homework I did. Ten to one you don't.
"It doesn't seem fair, does it Norm--that I should have so much knowledge when there are people in the world that have to go to bed stupid every night." -- Clifford C. Clavin, USPS
"¡No contaban con mi astucia!" -- El Chapulin Colorado
Ludd wrote:The person who first asked me to make inquiries here found out pretty quickly that there was no credible evidence for the allegations that had been made. So they moved on without it. They will not be attempting to demonstrate that Peterson, Hamblin, and Schryver have been guilty of offensive online behavior. There is no evidence for it.
This alleged person must be a hell of a lot smarter than the GAs and BYU's administration. You hang out with a pretty stellar crowd.
Do you have evidence that "GAs and BYU's administration" believe Peterson, Hamblin, and Schryver are guilty of offensive online behavior? Really?
Would it be too much to ask for evidence of this? (Silly me!)
Doctor Scratch wrote:An email from Ritner was posted here on this board.
Really? Where? Surely you wouldn't say something like this without there being evidence, would you?
Or are you just going to be like Bob, and tell me to find the evidence myself?
I gave you the link to Kevin's thread where Ritner responded, and now you're denying it? I verified that the email was genuine and corroborated. You have the same evidence I did at first. You can verify it if you'd like. I doubt very much that you will.
"It doesn't seem fair, does it Norm--that I should have so much knowledge when there are people in the world that have to go to bed stupid every night." -- Clifford C. Clavin, USPS
"¡No contaban con mi astucia!" -- El Chapulin Colorado
Doctor Scratch wrote:An email from Ritner was posted here on this board. Come on, Will. This is weak stuff from you.
That's not evidence, but hearsay from DCP is. And this guy just wants the truth.
You can't make up stuff like this!
Peterson quoted Gee.
You say Ritner posted on this board. But you don't show what and where-----although the best you could hope for is a he said/he said situation. Still, I want to see the Ritner post. Where is it?
Ludd wrote:Do you have evidence that "GAs and BYU's administration" believe Peterson, Hamblin, and Schryver are guilty of offensive online behavior? Really?
Would it be too much to ask for evidence of this? (Silly me!)
You must have missed the controversy over the Dehlin hit piece. Dehlin went to a GA, who went to BYU's administration, who killed the piece. DCP and Hamblin have confirmed this. Are you not paying attention or just being intentionally obtuse?
What should I expect from a guy who says I have no evidence when I provided a link to the evidence and then laughs because I said I verified the evidence but am not at liberty to break a confidence.
"It doesn't seem fair, does it Norm--that I should have so much knowledge when there are people in the world that have to go to bed stupid every night." -- Clifford C. Clavin, USPS
"¡No contaban con mi astucia!" -- El Chapulin Colorado
You say Ritner posted on this board. But you don't show what and where-----although the best you could hope for is a he said/he said situation. Still, I want to see the Ritner post. Where is it?
Gee's quote was much more circumspect than DCP's, probably because Gee doesn't want to be caught in a lie. He just said the university removed Ritner, which is true. DCP goes beyond that by saying that Gee had him removed, and there's no evidence for that.
I gave you the link. Why didn't you read it?
"It doesn't seem fair, does it Norm--that I should have so much knowledge when there are people in the world that have to go to bed stupid every night." -- Clifford C. Clavin, USPS
"¡No contaban con mi astucia!" -- El Chapulin Colorado
