Bill Reel v. Apologist Jim Bennett

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Shulem wrote:
lostindc wrote:The harm you're doing, at times, is just as bad as the LDS church.


Oh you mean like guilting kids over masturbation and homosexuality in which they commit suicide?

You're freaking nuts, lostindc! Shut the F up!!!!

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No dude.

Kind of sick of these dudes like Bill. I love how these dudes pretend they're shocked they got excommunicated from a crazy religion like Mormonism. Just damned weird. Why does Mormonism attract so many strange people that want to portray some sort of valiant personality, a righteous messenger just doing the good work whether Mormon or exmormon. Then you got the followers. If these followers are in Mormonism they hang on every directive from the annointed and if they’re out of Mormonism they’re drawn like magnets to the latest exmormon Joseph Smith’s.
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Grindael,

If 2011 was your first run on these types of Mormon message boards then I can see why you believe Bill does the board proud. If you’ve been around longer you might believe otherwise.

Either way, Bill is nuts, Mormonism is nuts, the apologists are nuts, us posters are nuts, etc, because we can’t climb out of this Mormon mindset, the Mormon leader/follower BS.

Bill lost his legitimacy when he pretended like he wasn’t sure of his outcome, when he acted surprised to be excommunicated, the recording BS, the public spectacle, all just so ridiculously silly.

Go out on your shield with integrity Bill. Just say it, f Mormonism. You knew the eventual outcome, you knew it was BS, you wanted to embarrass the church so you played a role and the reward of playing the role is you gain notoriety. You get a taste of what it was like to be one of the September six, Kate Kelley, Dehlin, and others before you, but in your case, I feel like you helped us reach a turning point where many people in the exmormon community got fed up with these silly court displays.

And yes Bill, I watch Mash reruns. It’s an incredible show with meaningful writing and lots of humor.
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Grindael, If 2011 was your first run on these types of Mormon message boards then I can see why you believe Bill does the board proud. If you’ve been around longer you might believe otherwise.


Quite irrelevant speculation based on your own criteria which has nothing to do with me,

Either way, Bill is nuts, Mormonism is nuts, the apologists are nuts, us posters are nuts, etc, because we can’t climb out of this Mormon mindset, the Mormon leader/follower BS.


Speak for yourself, that's all you can do. You're "nuts". Got it. That explains a lot.

Bill lost his legitimacy when he pretended like he wasn’t sure of his outcome, when he acted surprised to be excommunicated, the recording BS, the public spectacle, all just so ridiculously silly.


What, are you some kind of legitimacy meter? :lol: I haven't followed his whole life story, just listened to a few podcasts. You see, people go through things, and I'm sure Bill went through a period where he felt he had to explain himself. Happens to a lot of people. It's quite bizarre how people keep coming out of the woodwork to obsess about these Podcasters.

For example Mike Marquardt is one of my best friends. We research together, write together and talk incessantly. But you know what, I've never asked him ... once ... about why he isn't a member of the church anymore. In fact he may just be a lapsed member, I don't really know, nor care. I read what he writes, and if he writes an autobiography, I might buy it and read it, then I would know if he even included it. He has told me a few stories about his early years with the Tanners, and Vogel, Walters, and others and they are fascinating.

You, you seem to be obsessed with Bill's past while I'm interested in what he's discussing, today.

Go out on your shield with integrity Bill. Just say it, f Mormonism. You knew the eventual outcome, you knew it was BS, you wanted to embarrass the church so you played a role and the reward of playing the role is you gain notoriety. You get a taste of what it was like to be one of the September six, Kate Kelley, Dehlin, and others before you, but in your case, I feel like you helped us reach a turning point where many people in the exmormon community got fed up with these silly court displays.


Who are you talking to? Are you schizophrenic? For some reason you are really obsessed with Bill in a very negative way, and well, it's strange and you need to deal with it, (but not here, please) and you may need help. It seems there are some deep rooted problems you need to address. With further thought, maybe you should cut back on the cat tacos.

And yes Bill, I watch Mash reruns. It’s an incredible show with meaningful writing and lots of humor.


I'm not Bill. And I hated M.A.S.H., although now, once in a while it's amusing to watch it, but I find it rather silly as most TV is. I definitely hate the theme music.
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lostindc wrote:No dude.

Kind of sick of these dudes like Bill. I love how these dudes pretend they're shocked they got excommunicated from a crazy religion like Mormonism. Just damned weird. Why does Mormonism attract so many strange people that want to portray some sort of valiant personality, a righteous messenger just doing the good work whether Mormon or exmormon. Then you got the followers. If these followers are in Mormonism they hang on every directive from the annointed and if they’re out of Mormonism they’re drawn like magnets to the latest exmormon Joseph Smith’s.


Well, here's the thing, lostindc, there are people here, there, and everywhere, that want Bill Reel do do what he's doing and are benefiting from it.

Maybe you think you can do better? Get on the blower and make your own podcasts and let's see if you can do better.

There.
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lostindc wrote:Wait what? It's not that easy. You're part of this new crop hell bent on being a rendition of Dehlin/Martin Luther. It's a bunch of attention whoring.

Opinions are like A**holes... Your welcome to yours

The harm you're doing, at times, is just as bad as the LDS church. I can give two ____ about Mormonism anymore, but I can't imagine bringing someone onto a podcast, toying with them, and then later bragging about a "win" on message boards. If that's your passion, wtf.

I think there are real consequences for this Discussion w/ Bennett, which is even on its best day, Mormonism in a long form real time discussion with an informed critic, will have to make concessions it has no desire to make, and in which its claims it needs to hold onto are eviscerated. Think you can do better, lets do 12 hours.

For sure rebrand. Mormon Discussions is taken.

MormonDiscussions.com's url is taken. I am MormonDiscussionPodcast.org (singular) and I use MormonDiscussions.org as our umbrella site (It wasn't taken) but each podcast has its own name and website separate from that. I am sorry about your spilled milk.

The people that built this forum don't need to be tied to your podcast.

And they aren't. People should clearly be able to discern one product from the other.

The posters that populated this forum over the years are responsible for some of the most significant transitions in apologetics, provided so many resources exposing Mormonism, had real battles with the best in Mormon apologetics, amongst much more. You shouldn't be tied to that, nor me. We didn't do anything but regurgitate.


All praise thee and all the accomplishments of such. You've said your peace. Hopefully we can move on
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Grindal,

Lol.

Really. Really? Obsessed, schizo? What dude? What’s going on in your day dude? I log in and post every so often and lately it’s to discuss these goofs on both sides of the Mormon isle.

I don’t give a damn who your friend is, I really don’t give a damn about what you think or your fun story with your friend. I just don’t and I know you feel likewise about me... Don’t be another dude tethered to an exmormon personality. Don’t make thinking for yourself any more difficult. You can break away from this and build a life outside of Mormon stuff and thrive. Show the Mormon community compassion and also the ability to thrive after Mormonism.

Also, i could give two craps about Bill. I wish him the best, but he’s not real with the people. He’s another personality off the Joseph Smith tree only his game is the Dehlin game, but Dehlin does it way better and now Dehlin creates original content. The excitement of consig and him celebrating a victory over some no name apologist is pretty much silly (if a tree falls in a forest...). Speaking of pranks, Bill’s excommunication process was nothing more than a senior prank. Which is fine, but nothing more.

And yes, his podcast needs a rebrand. I don’t start a a podcast about cool ideas and call it Ted Talks Podcast. Time to rebrand.

And yes, you’re as nuts as everyone else. Arguing with you is just silly. Go have a coffee with Bill and talk about how cool it was that he stumped some no name apologist and all that other crap.

Mash is a bad ass show and the music sets the tone. I get along with many that don’t like mash but I don’t get along with many that don’t like mash and also fall all over themselves for exmormon personalities like Bill.
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Shulem wrote:
lostindc wrote:No dude.

Kind of sick of these dudes like Bill. I love how these dudes pretend they're shocked they got excommunicated from a crazy religion like Mormonism. Just ____ weird. Why does Mormonism attract so many strange people that want to portray some sort of valiant personality, a righteous messenger just doing the good work whether Mormon or exmormon. Then you got the followers. If these followers are in Mormonism they hang on every directive from the annointed and if they’re out of Mormonism they’re drawn like magnets to the latest exmormon Joseph Smith’s.


Well, here's the thing, lostindc, there are people here, there, and everywhere, that want Bill Reel do do what he's doing and are benefiting from it.

Maybe you think you can do better? Get on the blower and make your own podcasts and let's see if you can do better.

There.


You’re probably right.

My posts are definitely mean on this subject. My last post is harsh. I am sorry. I have significant respect for the path you walked.

I do believe we’re hitting a turning point where people will exit the church on their own terms and then show those remaining that they’re thriving. I am hoping the need to create a public spectacle of an excommunication ends (don’t give the Church the power to dictate some sort of weird trial). I also hope this internal drive to portray oneself as some sort of martyr and then focus so much time in forming oneself into a exmormon expert/guru/personality ends. The more we do these things, the more the church carries power. Walk out the doors, thrive, and take the power away from the Church.
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Knowing what you know now about Joseph Smith would you allow your 15 year old daughter to spend the summer as a house maid at Joseph Smith's homestead?

How about YOU, Daniel C Peterson? Would you sacrifice your teenager girl? How do you feel about Smith porking your little girl?

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Almost done with part 4.

Wow.


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lostindc wrote:Grindal, [SIC] SNIP...


Yup, schizophrenic. In spades. Definitely must be the cat tacos... :eek:
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