Radio Free Mormon: Daniel C. Peterson: The Artful Dodger

[_canpakes]

Joseph Fielding Smith did not suppress the first vision account. He sat on it. There's a big difference.

This, then, is supprassion.

[_Stem]

WHERE ARE THE EIGHT MISSING PAGES THAT HE ALSO CUT OUT OF THE LETTERBOOK?

Indeed. If by chance to strange account of the first vision was only known about because someone happened to mention it to a curious enough person then it’s entirely possible the other eight pages remain hidden or suppressed. It’s quite possible they too were hidden because they too contain information that would be strange compared to the story the church tells.

[_Dr Exiled]

The eight missing pages must contain something damaging no doubt. I wonder if Oaks and Ballard knew of this issue when they told the youth that the church doesn't hide unfavorable history?

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/broadcasts/face-to-face/oaks-ballard?lang=eng

It sure seems like a case of hiding unfavorable history to me.

[_Shulem]

continuous institutional custody

Suppression and cover-up which continues to this day.

[_Shulem]

consiglieri,

When you were a young apologist giving lectures based on what you knew at the time, how do you think you'd fare if your older counterpart (today's consiglieri) were to approach you after a lecture and burn you on the 1832 First Vision account? Consider everything you know today. Do you think you could have put a serious dent in young consiglieri's testimony or caused him too worry? Just imagine what you could have said to that young man!



PS. It's your fault that young consiglieri didn't know about the 1832 First Vision account because he was too lazy to research. After all, Daniel Peterson on the other side of the aisle was busy cracking the books and knew everything about it. But you failed. It wasn't the church's fault that you couldn't figure it out.

[_Shulem]

WHERE ARE THE EIGHT MISSING PAGES THAT HE ALSO CUT OUT OF THE LETTERBOOK?

It's a scandal and a cover-up. Mormon leaders have kept it under wraps and keep those things from the church because they are dishonest and despicable cowards and liars. In order to be a prophet, seer, and revelator you have to sell your soul to a devilish way of living. Those men are scum of the earth.

What did the missing 8 pages say? Oh, they are locked up in a safe, somewhere. Scumbag Joseph Fielding Smith was nothing more than a lying crook -- a pitiful old crotch -- and in the end was a senile bastard. The Smith's were crooks, all of them!

[_consiglieri]

I was a diligent student of Mormonism, I can assure you. Because of this, I was aware of the 1832 account of the first vision by the early 1980s. And I had adopted the typical apologist strategies of getting around the implications.

What I did not know until the last few years was the history of the history of the 1832 account, and how it was covered up and suppressed by the church for over three decades!

It is that history which is even more problematic than the text itself!

[_consiglieri]

Footnote three of the historical information of the letter book from which the eight leaves were excised states that those eight leaves have not been located. The plot thickens!

This is according to the JSPP itself.

[_Shulem]

I was a diligent student of Mormonism, I can assure you. Because of this, I was aware of the 1832 account of the first vision by the early 1980s. And I had adopted the typical apologist strategies of getting around the implications.

Excellent, thumbs up.

What I did not know until the last few years was the history of the history of the 1832 account, and how it was covered up and suppressed by the church for over three decades!

I wonder when Daniel Peterson learned about the history of the history?

It is that history which is even more problematic than the text itself!

You know, I tend to agree. The part about Father in Heaven not existing is one thing but the part about Joseph Fielding Smith hiding that up is quite another. I suppose JFS was upset to learn that he doesn't really have a Heavenly Father. That must be the reason he so angrily cut out the pages!

[_Shulem]

Footnote three of the historical information of the letter book from which the eight leaves were excised states that those eight leaves have not been located. The plot thickens!

This is according to the JSPP itself.

Maybe Daniel Peterson knows where the missing pages are and what's on them!

Hey Dan, where and what's on those pages?