Polygamy

[_Maksutov]

...MG can come into a thread like this and start lying...

CFR

Regards,
MG

You didn't take exception to this, did you?

"Mormonism and deceit or obfuscation or perjuring or misleading or dissembling or any other word that covers not being honest with your fellow man have gone hand in hand since day one."

How many lies did Joseph tell about polygamy? And why should we believe him about anything else? Because you have a sensation in your body that you've been told is better than facts?

This isn't about your faith. This is about your ego, your pride. You can't admit you're wrong. It's a serious Mormon problem. And that's why the perverted prophet stuff just keeps on happening. Arrogance masquerading as humility. So many layers of deception and for so long.

Your flock is full of predators and always has been. From the top down.

[_mentalgymnast]

...MG can come into a thread like this and start lying...

CFR

You didn't take exception to this, did you?

I'm asking him to point out examples that show I have "[come] into [this]thread...and [lied]". He, or yourself for that matter, may not like the sources I've linked to...but that doesn't make me a liar simply for pointing out differing points of view in regards to early LDS history, and polygamy in particular.

As is par for the course, this is another thread that will most likely devolve into a series of ad hominems and/or false innuendo directed my way. It wouldn't be the first time. It's at these junctures that I prepare to leave the room and let the mud fly.

Regards,
MG

[_Maksutov]

As is par for the course, this is another thread that will most likely devolve into a series of ad hominems directed my way. It wouldn't be the first time. It's at these junctures that I prepare to leave the room and let the mud fly.

Regards,
MG

I don't find your defense of pious sexual predators admirable and I will not pretend that I do. You are a defender of pious sexual predators. That's an ugly thing to be. Why don't you fix it instead of just demanding that I call you something nice?

Oh, I know why. Mental gymnastics. Pride. Arrogance.

You always say you're going to leave and you always come back. Yeah, that's another one of your lies. Oh, did I say "lie"? Is there a synonym that you prefer? I'll warm up my thesaurus.

[_mentalgymnast]

You always say you're going to leave and you always come back.

Leave the thread, silly. When it comes to this stuff that you put out there, it's a waste of time.

We'll see if anyone has anything else worth looking at and responding to. I don't expect it to come from your direction.

Regards,
MG

[_Maksutov]

You always say you're going to leave and you always come back.

Leave the thread, silly. When it comes to this stuff that you put out there, it's a waste of time.

We'll see if anyone has anything else worth looking at and responding to. I don't expect it to come from your direction.

Regards,
MG

Sorry, MG, I created the thread. And even if I didn't I wouldn't. Everything I said was true.

Your expectations are utterly irrelevant to me.

Joseph lied. And you know it. Pride is a sin, MG, just like lying. Your pride is your biggest problem now. Your discernment is zero. You are in a dangerous place.

Here's something else you'd love to ignore. More fruits of the evil ways of Joseph Smith:

https://www.sltrib.com/news/2019/11/11/ ... nmate-ron/

Ron Lafferty, who spent 34 years on Utah’s death row for the grisly murders of his sister-in-law and her baby daughter in 1984, died Monday at the Utah State Prison.

Lafferty, 78, whose full name was Ronald Watson Lafferty, died of natural causes at the Draper facility, prison officials said Monday. Though he had been on death row for decades, an execution date had not been set — but it was on the horizon after he lost his latest federal appeal in August.

His brother, Daniel Charles Lafferty, 71, who helped carry out the slayings, is serving a life sentence in a different unit at the Draper prison.

[_mentalgymnast]

You always say you're going to leave and you always come back.

Leave the thread, silly.

Sorry, MG, I created the thread. And even if I didn't I wouldn't [leave].

I meant ME leaving the thread, silly.

Goes to show how much we humans can misinterpret things. Even really simple stuff.

And the more complex/complicated stuff? Goes to show...

(in case you didn't catch what I was just referring to...it's polygamy in the early church.)

Regards,
MG

[_mentalgymnast]

I created the thread.

Duh.

Regards,
MG

[_Maksutov]

I created the thread.

Duh.

Regards,
MG

I can never count on you to grasp the obvious, so....

Anything else?

[_mentalgymnast]

Joseph lied. And you know it.

I think there is a danger in shrink wrapping everything into tight/tiny/predictable little packages. The package, in my opinion, is much bigger and much more nuanced than the critics would prefer.

And almost impossible to shrink wrap.

Regards,
MG

[_Maksutov]

And the more complex/complicated stuff? Goes to show...

(in case you didn't catch what I was just referring to...it's polygamy in the early church.)

Regards,
MG

Sexual predators always claim to need extra understanding and consideration because they're just so SPECIAL. So COMPLEX.