Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

[_3sheets2thewind]

A couple of questions:

1) There were three things that I was testing by changing Will's name to harmony in the quote from Consigs. Can you Identify one or more of them?

My answer is, I do not know what post your are referring too.

2) For those tossing around the Misogyny label, if posters here have some rather nasty things to say about Will, does that mean they are men haters? What if they also say many of the same nasty things about other men, like DCP, myself, Droopy, Nehor, etc? Does that make them men haters?

My answer is, some one who constintaly makes post about a mans or the male physique in a sexual or derogatory way could probably rightly be labeled a man hater.

3) Finally, given what liz indicated about the extensive moderating of not only posts by Will, but Kevin Graham and others as well, what would you think if it were actually Kevin who used the "C" word, but in reference to Will, rather than Will in reference to harmony, which seems to me far more likely, and is what I recall (hint: this relates indirectly to question #1).
Thanks, -Wade Englund-[/quote]

My answer is I have no opinion on the matter because I have not read all 38 pages. What I have read recently is indicates that WS has not denied using that word in reference to Harmony, but only that WS has said "You can not prove it".

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I have now answered your questions.

[_Nomad]

since when is the urban dictionary a reliable source?

“Circle Jerk” is a slang phrase. It is not found in conventional dictionaries. The Urban Dictionary is the definitive source for slang meanings. I have personally heard “circle jerk” used metaphorically (just like Schryver used it) many times in my life.

This thread is a perfect example of the metaphorical meaning of “circle jerk”. In fact, most threads here at MDB are great examples of a “circle jerk”. I can’t think of any other term that better describes what goes on here.

[_beastie]

since when is the urban dictionary a reliable source?

“Circle Jerk” is a slang phrase. It is not found in conventional dictionaries. The Urban Dictionary is the definitive source for slang meanings. I have personally heard “circle jerk” used metaphorically (just like Schryver used it) many times in my life.

This thread is a perfect example of the metaphorical meaning of “circle jerk”. In fact, most threads here at MDB are great examples of a “circle jerk”. I can’t think of any other term that better describes what goes on here.

Will deliberately picks terms with sexual entendres. That very fact means that the sexual entendre is part of the point.

[_3sheets2thewind]

since when is the urban dictionary a reliable source?

“Circle Jerk” is a slang phrase. It is not found in conventional dictionaries. The Urban Dictionary is the definitive source for slang meanings. I have personally heard “circle jerk” used metaphorically (just like Schryver used it) many times in my life.

This thread is a perfect example of the metaphorical meaning of “circle jerk”. In fact, most threads here at MDB are great examples of a “circle jerk”. I can’t think of any other term that better describes what goes on here.

Harmony is just bitter that the daily circle jerks in the Great and Spacious Trailer Park™ are the closest she has come to a bona fide sexual experience

you are beyond hope or reason if do not think that is comment about sex. WS used the phrase in relation to sex, there is no doubt what he meant sex.

Secondly, I do not know your religious affiliation, for the sake argument I will presume you are active Temple Rec holding LDS, if such is the case, do you approve of the use of vulgar sexually laden sexual comments (whether directly or metaphor) used by WS?

[_Kishkumen]

I have learned from long experience that apologists are not guilty.

[_Simon Belmont]

Without excusing anyone's behavior, I must admit that I am mean-spirited towards a few members of MDB, but I believe it is my online persona being mean spirited toward someone else's online persona. Also, keeping this in mind helps me to not take insults and barbs from these members personally.

[_Nomad]

Harmony is just bitter that the daily circle jerks in the Great and Spacious Trailer Park™ are the closest she has come to a bona fide sexual experience ...

This post was not made by Will, but by someone who made an account here and then just made this one post. Will has already denied having ever posted as “WilliamSchryver”.

Here’s the link to the post: viewtopic.php?p=229889#p229889

As you can see, the poster (“WilliamSchryver” – no space between the names) only made one post at MDB.

You guys have so many lies in this thread it’s hard to keep up with all of them.

From what I have seen, Will hardly ever uses sexually tinged comments. I haven’t seen him do it at all for a long, long time. People have been citing the same handful of his posts where there were sexual allusions for years now.

Am I using a sexual reference when I call this thread a big circle jerk? No, I’m not. I’m just using the term according to its common metaphorical meaning.

[_Nomad]

I have learned from long experience that apologists are not guilty.

I have learned from long experience that apostates usually are.

[_Kishkumen]

This post was not made by Will, but by someone who made an account here and then just made this one post. Will has already denied having ever posted as “WilliamSchryver”.

Here’s the link to the post: viewtopic.php?p=229889#p229889

As you can see, the poster (“WilliamSchryver” – no space between the names) only made one post at MDB.

Has he explicitly denied this himself, or are you his messenger for this denial?

[_Nomad]

This post was not made by Will, but by someone who made an account here and then just made this one post. Will has already denied having ever posted as “WilliamSchryver”.

Here’s the link to the post: viewtopic.php?p=229889#p229889

As you can see, the poster (“WilliamSchryver” – no space between the names) only made one post at MDB.

Has he explicitly denied this himself, or are you his messenger for this denial?

MsJack:

For the record, William is known to have used the following MDB handles:

William Schryver
WilliamSchryver
Will Schryver

Will’s first post on this thread:

For the record, I have only posted here under the handles "William Schryver" and "Will Schryver".

Link: viewtopic.php?p=449299#p449299